Thanks for the feedback JJ
If I get taller you’ll be the first to know =>D[/quote]
I’m 3 days on the dbol. I’ve been using Nolva avging 20mg daily since my Test cycle started. I don’t look like a blowfish yet, but it’s still early and the dbol will come to a screeching halt if I do. I agree about the AI’s. I wish I would’ve had one from the start of my cycle.
Yeah, I know proviron it is not an AI, I bought as a support agent.[/quote]
fair enough - as i said it was an assumption and they don’t always work out accurate…[quote]
I’m on TRT also, which may be something I add to that regimen. For adding extra T, it sounds pretty good.[/quote]
Uh actually it will not add extra T at all… it simply does not work like this.
It is also useless as an anabolic (as a direct DHT derivative)[quote]
The reason I bought the letro and adex is that I’ve read that letro is better for gynecomastia while some suggest adex for addressing general AI issues.[/quote]
Okay… I am not sure what ‘general AI issues’ are or why Gyno does not qualify as an issue of aromatase activity… Simply put, what you read is wrong.[quote]
Also, the site has a minimum purchase requirement and I was desperate for an AI at that point. The site I wanted to use was “down” unfortunately or I probably would’ve simply bought adex or letro.[/quote]
Great plan… i personally would have bought more anabolics or some different but equally useful ancillary such as caber, finasteride, a SERM, cialis… etc.[quote]
One thing I’m hoping is that I don’t get too fat on this cycle, I did a bf measurement at work using an electronic thing you hold and press go - 19.6% bf.[/quote]
IMO that ship has sailed i’m afraid. Being too fat before a cycle drastically increases the likely hood of being too fat after your (bulking) cycle.[quote]
Very high bf for a cycle I understand. I don’t know how much a difference an AI at the beginning of my cycle would have made, but wish I had had it. I’m just hoping the AI’s I ordered arrive sooner than later. I’ve gained some belly fat (water too maybe?), but nothing drastic at this point.[/quote]
I get the impression you expect a little too much from the AI at this point. it WILL stop excess fat and water accumulation as a direct result of estrogen level BUT it will not (with your cycle) decrease the water and fat you clearly carry already.[quote]
I’ve noticed overall on the cycle my appetite hasn’t increased that much. Should I be feeling that much of an increase in hunger by now (week 4)? I’ve heard people talking about changing their wardrobes after cycle and such, but hope after a 10-12 week cycle wouldn’t outgrow even my “fat jeans”. I’m about 33/34, my fat jeans are about a 36[/quote]
Man - you are about the worst person to be using steroids right now i swear. I honestly feel sorry for you as i have a strong suspicion this will NOT end in your favour.
The (mythical) stories you have heard about needing a new wardrobe after one cycle are extreme to say the least.
The only person who would need to do such a thing would have not only gained a maximum amount of 30lbs during the cycle but would have outgrown all their clothes already.
What also is clear, is that you are using your waist measurement as a means to measure growth… so you are hoping you don’t put on 3-5" on your waist in one cycle - and you are already 20%?
Honestly, your waist should increase the least of all girth measurements if you are trying to build an aesthetic physique (for women, men or judges alike).
Now i cant remember if i have read any of this thread, if so i forgot your goals… so if you are a strength athlete then i heartily apologise and you go for it man.
If however you are trying to add muscle (as your expectation of weight gain and drug choices seem to suggest), then you need to dial in your diet and not worry so much about water and concentrate more on your adipose tissues.
sorry i am harsh… but you are 4 weeks in and IMO you need a short sharp shock.
Don’t get low, or spend ages typing intelligent and cutting replies - just jump into action
So - i am NOT saying ‘cut’ - i don’t actually use or recommend ‘bulk’ or ‘cut’ regimes for anyone other than those who are utterly committed to drastic lifestyle changes.
But eat clean, eat maintenance kcals, eat high protein, control carbs and moderate (EFA’s etc.) fats, high fibre and drink lots of water.
Dont ‘go on’ a diet but simply ‘have a good’ diet. It will serve you much better than a ‘cut’ or ‘bulk’ will IME.