Wow, this thread is going down the craphole.
First of all saying there are shades of gray, but then calling Bush something like Bushit, and to consider that there are no shades of gray in Bush’s actions is hypocritical.
For everybody?s information Bush is a liberal. Not a conservative, but a liberal. I don?t agree with everything he has done, like all the big spending. Bigger government spending makes him a liberal.
Who the hell said everyone has to agree with Bush in all things?
I prefer not to label myself as a conservative, because I like to keep my mind open, but when the definition of a conservative is smaller government, I realized I had to accept I am a conservative. But that may change. If I believe things go to far to the right, then I would become a liberal. That simple.
Saying a person is a liberal is not a bad thing. It is simply a political position. Now to complain about what liberals do is another thing.
Too many (not all) liberals have gone off the deep end. Lost it. This thread is an example of that. And if they don’t get it together, they are going to be out of power for a long time.
I never had a problem with a disagreement with the war. What I always had a problem is destruction of a person, and the complete rejection of a war just because one party wants to get another into power.
Also the hate was just over the top. Bush just made Condoleeza Rice the most powerful African American female in American history. Is this acknowledged by the left? No. Instead Bush is evil. Hate Bush and everything connected to Bush.
I thought the Democrats were supposed to be the party against hate, but that is all I am hearing from them. Hate Bush, Hate Bush, Hate Bush… And suddenly they turn it around and complain that he divided the country. After two years of nothing but constant attacks on him.
There is a complete blindness on the left right now. People don’t even actually read the posts, but fill in the imaginary blanks to add something nobody ever talked about. For example when Prof X brought up FOX news, and how you have to agree with them. Who the hell ever said that? I have not read every single post here, but I don’t think a single conservative has really brought up Fox news, but the liberal keep doing so. Why, especially when nobody on the right is bringing it up.
And I should mention to tme that you do not understand anything about economics. What is good for “big business” is good for the people. For some reason some people think the economics are somehow separate for the rich and the poor, or for the businesses and the people. It is not, it is actually very much like nature. The circle of life thing. (Or for the South Park enthusiasts the circle of poo.)
A business crates jobs. The people make money off of working, and if smart invests a portion. (If not gets tons of credit, and goes into hock.) Those people spend money which goes into corporations, who take that money and invest it, or pass it on to the shareholders, or into the mom and pop household budget. That money again is circulated through the economy. Jobs are created, and employees make more money, which leads to more investing, more jobs, and more profit. That profit does not just get dumped into some giant cookie jar somewhere.
Unfortunately any number of people can fuck things up along the way. Increased taxes is a drag on an economy. Management doesn’t acknowledge the employees by paying them enough, and they go elsewhere, or even go start up competition across the street.
The big problem here is seeing you success as being outside of yourself. If it is true that you cannot be successful unless somebody else does something, then you are no different then the NAFFA members. I don’t think anyone here uses the excuse of genetics, or those evil corporations like McDonalds putting out fattening food as the reason they are not in shape. It is the same with finances. You want money, then you go get it. That doesn?t mean hurting others, in fact it is easier if you are helping people. Solving their problems.
But we learned one important thing here. tme believes in tax cuts, and smaller government budgets. Therefore tme is a conservative.