T Nation

Conform! (Strong Words 8/15)

“Trumpet in a herd of elephants; crow in the company of cocks; bleat in a flock of goats. - Malayan Proverb”

Is it just me, or is that a call to conform to the crowd? What’s strong about that?

Is today our annual “No Balls” day and no one told me?

[quote]pookie wrote:
“Trumpet in a herd of elephants; crow in the company of cocks; bleat in a flock of goats. - Malayan Proverb”

Is it just me, or is that a call to conform to the crowd? What’s strong about that?

Is today our annual “No Balls” day and no one told me?

[/quote]

when i read it i think it means that when you are within the crowd, make it so you stand out. be different. thats just how i see it though, could be totally wrong
e

[quote]pookie wrote:
“Trumpet in a herd of elephants; crow in the company of cocks; bleat in a flock of goats. - Malayan Proverb”

Is it just me, or is that a call to conform to the crowd? What’s strong about that?

Is today our annual “No Balls” day and no one told me?

[/quote]

There is a time for everything under the sun–a time to cry and time to laugh, a time to make war and a time to make peace…

Basically, pick the right time for your actions. Don’t bleat amoung lions. You’ll be eaten. :slight_smile:

[quote]pookie wrote:
“Trumpet in a herd of elephants; crow in the company of cocks; bleat in a flock of goats. - Malayan Proverb”
[/quote]

Try rethinking that line in light of the “you are who you hang out with” tendencies around here (i.e. you hang out with losers, they drag you down, you hang out with hardworking, dedicated individuals, they pull you up).

It is indeed strong.

[quote]Easy E wrote:
pookie wrote:
“Trumpet in a herd of elephants; crow in the company of cocks; bleat in a flock of goats. - Malayan Proverb”

Is it just me, or is that a call to conform to the crowd? What’s strong about that?

Is today our annual “No Balls” day and no one told me?

when i read it i think it means that when you are within the crowd, make it so you stand out. be different. thats just how i see it though, could be totally wrong
e
[/quote]

That’s what I thought at first, but how does bleating in a herd of goats stand out? All goats bleat. If you bleat too, you’re just another goat.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
pookie wrote:
“Trumpet in a herd of elephants; crow in the company of cocks; bleat in a flock of goats. - Malayan Proverb”

Is it just me, or is that a call to conform to the crowd? What’s strong about that?

Is today our annual “No Balls” day and no one told me?

There is a time for everything under the sun–a time to cry and time to laugh, a time to make war and a time to make peace…

Basically, pick the right time for your actions. Don’t bleat amoung lions. You’ll be eaten. :slight_smile: [/quote]

It doesn’t really say that though. All three sentences are about conforming; there’s no indication of doing otherwise at some other time.

[quote]Cluster wrote:
Try rethinking that line in light of the “you are who you hang out with” tendencies around here (i.e. you hang out with losers, they drag you down, you hang out with hardworking, dedicated individuals, they pull you up).

It is indeed strong.

[/quote]

It doesn’t say that either. It mentions different groups (elephants, cocks and goats) and says to act as the group does when with that group. I know quite a few people like that, but I wouldn’t consider them “strong.”

I took it to mean be adaptable, but alas, I could be wrong. Kind of like the story about the blind men and the elephant TC talked about recently different views from our perspectives.

D

[quote]pookie wrote:
Easy E wrote:
pookie wrote:
“Trumpet in a herd of elephants; crow in the company of cocks; bleat in a flock of goats. - Malayan Proverb”

Is it just me, or is that a call to conform to the crowd? What’s strong about that?

Is today our annual “No Balls” day and no one told me?

when i read it i think it means that when you are within the crowd, make it so you stand out. be different. thats just how i see it though, could be totally wrong
e

That’s what I thought at first, but how does bleating in a herd of goats stand out? All goats bleat. If you bleat too, you’re just another goat.

[/quote]

i just kind of put together the other part of the line. i guess you could be the loud goat within the group? i dont kno im ramblin now, haha.

[quote]Dedicated wrote:
I took it to mean be adaptable, but alas, I could be wrong. Kind of like the story about the blind men and the elephant TC talked about recently different views from our perspectives.

D [/quote]

I guess “be adaptable” is probably the best you can get from that proverb.

If you’re a spy in a foreign country, them are great words to live by.

[quote]Dedicated wrote:
I took it to mean be adaptable, but alas, I could be wrong. Kind of like the story about the blind men and the elephant TC talked about recently different views from our perspectives.

D [/quote]

I noticed that I could get a big version of your avatar by dragging it to a new window and now I don’t care about the strong words, whatever they were…

:slight_smile:

I’ve never heard of a spy elephant, so I’m with Pookie on this one; I think it says conform! To which I reply up yours!

Yeah, bleating in a heard of sheep or goats or whatever makes you a loudmouth sheep (or goat). Just an annoying loudmouth.

Now bleating in a pride of LIONS, man THEN you’d have a set of balls!

It says “conform” to me as well.

And to that I say; “Conformity is when everybody likes you but YOU!”

[quote]Miserere wrote:
I’ve never heard of a spy elephant, so I’m with Pookie on this one; I think it says conform! To which I reply up yours![/quote]

“Up yours!” That reminds me of the movie “Independence Day” with Will Smith when Randy Quaid flew his fighter jet up and into the belly of the alien space craft on a suicide mission to save Earth (it worked).

Let’s not forget that our beloved “Strong Words” do not necessarily mean something strong in a positive sense… maybe something more you have a strong reaction to (as seems to be happening here).

Be true to your nature. If you are a goat, then by all means, fucking bleat. Why pretend to be something you aren’t?

Now where is that cliff I heard all my fellow lemmings were on their way to?

[quote]pookie wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
I took it to mean be adaptable, but alas, I could be wrong. Kind of like the story about the blind men and the elephant TC talked about recently different views from our perspectives.

D

I noticed that I could get a big version of your avatar by dragging it to a new window and now I don’t care about the strong words, whatever they were…

:slight_smile:
[/quote]

Yes, it has a way of erasing thoughts or worries.

Enjoy,

D

[quote]vroom wrote:
Be true to your nature. If you are a goat, then by all means, fucking bleat. Why pretend to be something you aren’t?

Now where is that cliff I heard all my fellow lemmings were on their way to?[/quote]

A cliff is also useful if you happen to have a goat handy.

The fear of falling off makes it push back much harder.

Wait… I think we already had this goat thread somewhere, didn’t we? Didn’t Zeb end up marrying her too?

Maybe its trying to say: since your among men, be a man.

Headhunter

[quote]pookie wrote:
I noticed that I could get a big version of your avatar by dragging it to a new window and now I don’t care about the strong words, whatever they were…

:slight_smile:
[/quote]

Geek note: does not apply to MSIE 6.0, works nicely on Firefox. Veronica Zemanova is quite ze babe.