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CNS Recovery and AAS Use

Sup brahs

Just started my very first cycle. Before this I trained purely with the concept that a strong squat built big legs strong shoulder press built big delts etc. therefor I purely trained for strength. So i got in the gym 4x/week and would be murdered on my weekend off. But fuarkk now that Im on I can’t stop training. Im still listening to my body and it always says go tare shit up. Im running 6 on 1 off and my 1 off days are pure agony, I wanna train but I know I need some recovery. Training like a bb’r 6 on 1 off with different muscle groups being targeted each day am I at risk of overtraining? I really wanna make the most of this.

If your on cycle then it will be a lot tougher to overtrain. I would keep doing what you are doing until that feelings goes away. Then you will know your limit and can stay near it but never pass it.

It’s a lot tougher to overtrain on volume on AAS. IME it doesn’t have any impact on the ability of your CNS to recover, but if you’re doing a bodypart split that shouldn’t matter.

When I am on cycle, I train the same way-6 on 1 off. Making the most of the speddy recovery time provided thru the use of AA’s. Off cycle I go to a 5 on 2 off. This works for me and I have never had any problems with overtraining myself.
Just keep doing what you are doing and listen to your body.

Adaptogens are what you should look into for CNS recovery. I used to be really big on all of that. Way before my AAS use I used adaptogens

Still if I am feeling overtrained I add it back in for a week or so and I am back to 100%. I use that method a lot if I am in a phase that is far from a planned deload, or if I can’t afford a deload week right then.

The original daily formula was
3000mg of american ginseng
3000mg siberian ginseng
3000mg korean ginseng
All have different ginsenosides making the blend more effective. I learned about this in a seminar focusing on the use of ginseng to treat inflammatory issues, adrenal, and nervous system fatigue. The difference was phenomenal and I kept searching for more herbs to add to the list. At this point I could handle doing max effort lower body work sunday, speed bench tuesday, speed squats and pulls Wednesday then up to 85% after speed work, max effort bench friday. Felt ready to go each time.

Over time I added other items to the list including

Reishi, shitake, and maitake mushroom complex (forgot the exact dosages, but I used 2-3 times the suggested dose on the bottle)… These are very effective. Started working up to 85% on speed bench day and felt overtrained until I added this to the list.

Shizandra- took the suggested dose, noticed I was feeling even more prepared for each session and was ready to kill weight every time.

Added in tyrosine at 2500mg ED, and an extra 2000mg an hour pre-workout. This was a huge difference and the weights I was able to handle started going up quickly.

Perhaps this was all coincidental, but I used to be really big on this stuff. I still am actually, but it is pretty expensive and AAS are cheaper lol. I was big on 2-3 grams of vitamin C and a decent dose of vitamin E every day as well.

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[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
Adaptogens are what you should look into for CNS recovery. I used to be really big on all of that. Way before my AAS use I used adaptogens

Still if I am feeling overtrained I add it back in for a week or so and I am back to 100%. I use that method a lot if I am in a phase that is far from a planned deload, or if I can’t afford a deload week right then.

The original daily formula was
3000mg of american ginseng
3000mg siberian ginseng
3000mg korean ginseng
All have different ginsenosides making the blend more effective. I learned about this in a seminar focusing on the use of ginseng to treat inflammatory issues, adrenal, and nervous system fatigue. The difference was phenomenal and I kept searching for more herbs to add to the list. At this point I could handle doing max effort lower body work sunday, speed bench tuesday, speed squats and pulls Wednesday then up to 85% after speed work, max effort bench friday. Felt ready to go each time.

Over time I added other items to the list including

Reishi, shitake, and maitake mushroom complex (forgot the exact dosages, but I used 2-3 times the suggested dose on the bottle)… These are very effective. Started working up to 85% on speed bench day and felt overtrained until I added this to the list.

Shizandra- took the suggested dose, noticed I was feeling even more prepared for each session and was ready to kill weight every time.

Added in tyrosine at 2500mg ED, and an extra 2000mg an hour pre-workout. This was a huge difference and the weights I was able to handle started going up quickly.

Perhaps this was all coincidental, but I used to be really big on this stuff. I still am actually, but it is pretty expensive and AAS are cheaper lol. I was big on 2-3 grams of vitamin C and a decent dose of vitamin E every day as well.

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Brilliant post man.

Just when you think you are starting to get good grasp on everything bodybuilding interesting stuff like this pops up. I will look into this.

For now Im just gonna see how hard I can push myself in the gym. Ive always preached high rest low training but Im going against the grain on this. First cycle is a learning experience I guess.

Icechest here is an asshat^^. I’d love to go toe to toe with you in breaking down the CNS infrastructure without you using google.

Would heavy dosage of B vitamins (like 10.000 % of RDS) be beneficial to help the CNS?