[quote]Saskman84 wrote:
[quote]Divyx wrote:
[quote]Saskman84 wrote:
I got them to email me my results before my appointment.
Noticed a few changes, like thyroid was lower (last time it was 4.5) and testosterone went up up 55 but still low.
First time I’ve seen some of the tests.
DHT: 391 pg/ml or 1438 pmol/litre (range 860-2406 pmol/l)
Total testosterone: 281.844 ng/dl or 9.78 nmol/litre
SHBG: 28 (range 13-71)
Free Androgen Index: 34 (range 14.8-94.8)
TSH - Screen - TSH: 3.23 mIU/L (range 0.49-4.67)
Total PSA: (Prostate Specific Antigen) 0.4 (ref range 0.0-4.0)
FSH: 4.13 IU/L (Range 1.4-18.1 IU/L)
LH: 2.70 IU/L (Range 20-70 years 1.5-9.3 or older then 70: 3.1-34.6)
Estradiol: 15.52 pg/ml or 57 pmol/l
Triglyceride: 0.88 nmol/l
Cholesterol: 4.45 nmol/l (range 3.8 to 5.2)
HDL Cholesterol: 1.08 nmol/l (range 0.9 to 2.40)
LDL Cholesterol: 3.40 nmol/l
Non HDL Cholesterol: 3.4 nmol/l
ALT - Alanine Aminotransferase (ALT) 31 (range 4-55)
Renal (all units in nmol/l):
Sodium: 137 (range 135-145)
Potassium: 4.8 (range 3.5-5.0)
Chloride: 107 (range 98-110)
Urea: 6.4 (range 3.0-7.1)
Creatine: 76 (range 60-130)
eGFR > 60 (> Normal or slightly decreased)
GGT - Gamma Glutamyl Transferase (GGT) 16 U/L (range 15-73)
Aspartate Aminotransferase (AST) 16 (range 5-35)
ALP - Alkaline Phosphatase (ALP) 66 U/L (range 40-135)
Glucose - Fasting: 5.0 nmol/l (range 3.6 to 6.1)
CO2 Carbon Dioxide: 26 nmol/l (range 21-30)
Corrected Calcium:
Calcium: 2.36 nmol/l (ref 2.14-2.66)
Albumin: 39 g/l (range 35-50)
Corrected calcium: 2.38 (range 2.14 to 2.66)[/quote]
This is now old info right? Because i first thought this was recent info where you’re using Clomid already, and was gonna tell you that it didn’t work out regarding your Total T level.
But i do have question.
Is it only me or can someone explain better if i’m totally wrong? Because clearly the lab reads you have naturally low e2, and now your taking clomid on top of it and low e2 equals erectile dysfunction and your battling with it specificly? This all makes no sense to me.
Edit: See happydog48’s estradiol, paragraph: In range does not equal good.
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Well thanks for the reply. I learned the hardway that in range doesn’t equal good, as two doctors told me my T levels were fine- despite me having symptoms of low T, despite my test being 210 ng/l.
You are the first person to tell me I have low Estrogen levels. I’m reading here that low testosterone often equals low estrogen. Is it true? I also read, on here, that Clomid often raises Estrogen too high.
Well I have to wait to review my results taken almost two months ago here with the urologist, I have not been back since. I will return Sept 4. Nervous/Eager to see what he will say, or want to do next.[/quote]
Did they measure your prolactin in new tests?
The testosterone / estrogen ratio totally depends from many other hormone functions to your body stats ( overweight etc ). Everyone needs to test it to know for certainty and results are individual. Low T does not necessarily equal low E2.
Clomid will bind itself to estrogen receptors fooling your brain to think there’s little estrogen present, this will increase LH/FSH which in return stimulate synthesis and secretion of testosterone.
Tests will propably show your estrogen levels are from good to high, i guess, and i don’t have enough knowledge to say how human biology works in this matter regarding if such results with clomid in action should be treated as false?
Hopefully someone will fill us in.
Editing this post further:
I had little time to study more about the doctor / clomid relationship and long term use hehe.
There’s no real studies about !long term! usage of clomid with males unless one has been done recently, i doubt that very much.
Check out this funny link as one example: Clomiphene citrate is safe and effective for long-term management of hypogonadism - PubMed “Clomiphene citrate is safe and effective for long-term management of hypogonadism” published in US national library of medicine concluded by 5 doctors study.
Pretty much only thing they concluded hypogonadism wise, is that clomid raises T levels considerably and because they tested it with males who were treated with clomid for over 12 months ( not specified exactly how long ) it’s therefore a viable long term treatment for hypogonadism. Since none of the 46 patients in the experiment reported no sides, they concluded it safe.
It doesn’t sound even remotely right though.
Clomid is serm, and in lords year 2015 they are still not fully understood even though they’ve been around for decades. There’s a lot of interesting information about them.
Reported side effects with users ranging from blurred vision to nausea, mood crashes to loss of libido etc. Bioactive testosterone is very doubtful aswell with long term usage due to estrogen agonist properties.
I could go on a lot about this but everything to me says this treatment is not going to be long term and should only be short term plan at best. Think about it, it makes no sense.
If your doctor thinks estrogen blocking with serm is the way to treat your hypogonadism for the rest of your life, he is an idiot and treats you as a guinea pig. Imo you should take the traditional way but that’s just my opinion.
All the best bro, and be sure to post the results in september.