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Clomid or Nolvadex? Stand-Alone to Improve Low T


#1

Hey Guys,

Just looking for an insight and some helpful advice on using Clomid / Nolvadex as a stand-alone to improve levels of low testosterone.

I recently posted for some advice on my fluctuating testosterone levels and I have been having some difficulty in getting my doctor to be understanding of my current health issues. I will post a link to my thread here and would be most grateful if you could take a look and give me your views.

I have recently contacted a private TRT specialist in an attempt to gain a greater understanding of my recent blood work results.

I have trained naturally now since my very early twenties, but I have come to the conclusion that I may need to consider other options as my quality of life is on the slide. I don’t want to jump straight in at the deep end in self-medicating with injectable testosterone at this point and would like to know if using Clomid / Nolvadex would be beneficial in improving life inside and outside of the gym?

I’m looking to users of Clomid / Nolvadex here for their take on things. What are the advantages / disadvantages to using these substances and what would be a safe dose to commence with?

Is there anything else that I would need to run alongside Clomid / Nolvadex to offset side effects etc?

I would really appreciate any shared knowledge in this area. Thank You! :thumbsup:


#2

Reviewing your thread, it doesn’t seem like you have any glaring hormone issues, which could be resolved via TRT or HPTA restart. I see you had one low T test, but a subsequent test was significantly higher. I think this is a normal hormonal cycling that many factors can influence, such as drinking, smoking, sex, working out, sports, etc… Do you have issues with Gut health? IBS? Maybe vitamin deficiencies?

As for your questions about Nolvadex, I took it once and it raised my LH over the normal high mark, this raised up my TT to the normal range, but it quickly went back low after coming off Nolvadex. This was when I decided just to stay with TRT. I had consistently low T blood tests for over two years. You never really told us what your issues are in either thread, besides a blood test what are you symptoms??


#3

Thanks for taking the time to review my thread mate, appreciate that!

In total, I have had four separate blood tests done since April 2016. All came back with fluctuating levels, 10.2, 7.0, 14.3 and 18.4. The two higher readings are not a true reflection of the way I am feeling or the symptoms I am dealing with. Something just isn’t right somewhere.

In relation to my lifestyle, I have never smoked, I occasionally drink when I do go out with friends and on special occasions and I have never taken drugs recreationally. I work out 4-5 times per week.

I supplement with Whey protein, Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA’s and also take a pre-workout. I take a Multi-Vitamin, Calcium, Zinc and Magnesium, Vitamin D, Vitamin K2, Krill Oil and Cod Liver Oil.

No issues with Gut health that I am aware of, but not entirely sure if I had any intolerances to certain foods etc. as I have never had all that checked out. I do not suffer with IBS. Vitamin D did flag up as low on a blood panel in April 2016, but I started to supplement after receiving the results.

At the moment I am weighing up my possible options and I have contacted a well known TRT specialist here in the UK, so I am awaiting an appointment for a private consultation. I visited my doctor again today and explained my current situation and asked him if he would run a full set of panels that KSman asked for on my attached thread. He stated that he was unable to run specific tests as he did not have the authorisation to do so. I am no further on with things at the moment.

I did put a lot of my current symptoms on my first post. But I will run through them here if this will assist you in any way.

I have been feeling very low and depressed for quite some time and I have no motivation most days. My mental focus is somewhat impaired and I suffer with brain fog. I have trouble reading and absorbing information and I often have to re-read things to grasp and process the information. It’s awful and really impacts on my daily life.

I have a dry, itchy and flaky scalp and I do tend to itch and scratch it a lot. The skin on the inside of my earlobes is also very dry. I do get dry eyes and my vision has deteriorated and is often blurry most days. Reading things from distance is a challenge. Over the past few months I have suffered with mild headaches and this is a daily occurrence now. I get a slight ringing in my ears too.

The nails on my toes have become a little tougher and a bit more brittle. Never previously had this issue, but I remember that they used to be much easier to trim as they were softer.

The other major concern is my libido and sex drive. Morning erections are a thing of the past and my desire to have sex on a regular basis is also affecting me. My testes occasionally get a dull ache, but this doesn’t happen too frequently.

My training has it’s ups and downs and I struggle to shed the body fat. I bulked up to 14 stone and then dieted down to 11 stone at my lightest, but was still way above 12-14% bf after all my hard graft. The fat tends to sit around my middle and I have never really been able to see a visible six pack. There is nothing I really avoid in my diet and try to incorporate IIFYM principles, although I do seem to get better results from training when I eat more nutritious foods.

What are your views based on my symptoms and all of the information provided?