clen for sure. Don’t do the 2 weeks on/off. Stay on a week or less and take more time off than you stayed on.
Jump in at 80mcg and just stay at that dose. Don’t go higher, don’t bother tapering up.
Cut your calories like FUCK. Clen’ll stop any muscle loss anyway. It’s a crazy drug, you feel like hell but you look better every time you wake up in the morning. Very motivating.
Working out fucking sucks on clen though, so don’t expect to hit any PRs.
Take 10g of taurine every day for the sake of your heart.[/quote]
Dude you probably cut way too many calories. Clen is the only drug I’ve used so far, i’ve done 3 cycles, and all i did was a 500 calorie deficit.
i hit new PRs every 3 weeks while cycling clen. It’s probably very individual specific, but clen works well for me, and i other than the possibility of cramps, i dont see why anyone would have a bad workout on clen.
Also, taurine supplementation really just depends on whether you’re getting enough from your diet. I always cycled between 40-80mg of clen and never needed taurine.
PS clen gives me intolerable headaches sometimes. It really takes a few days before your body adapts to new doses and i really cant focus or work for too long 80mg. I feel fidgety [/quote]
Taurine supplementation has been almost a game changer for me. It’s impacted my workouts immensely since I started using it. I take 4g before workouts right now.
And I’ve never actually seen pictures of Yogi, but if his self-descriptions are accurate, I feel like he has a pretty good idea of how to get lean and retain muscle. I can’t take advice on how to get lean from someone who isn’t even as lean as I am to start with. You’ve done 3 clen runs and your abs aren’t even visible… I intend to try his suggestion first. [/quote]
The point of ramping up the clen dose is to assess side effects. If you know you handle it just fine, then jumping in at some point is fine. If not–and as this is your first time using it you don’t know how you’ll respond–then ramping up is the smart way to go. Clen’s half life is over 24 hours, so if you go significantly higher than your body likes you might feel shitty for longer than a couple hours.
Clen will not stop all muscle loss. If you are not running an androgen cycle concurrently with your clen you can still lose lean tissue on drastic calorie deficits even though clen will aid in the muscle sparing efforts considerably.
In general, and as long as your schedule can handle it, I advise increasing your present calorie deficit through increasing activity from conditioning and such at first. This generally has a better “feel” without the deprivation associated with drastic calorie cutting and usually does not impact your recovery as badly because you have more fuel. This is particularly useful while ramping into your comfort zone on the dose. After you have figured out how your body reacts to your chosen top dose, you can start to cut calories more drastically and you will have a faster burning metabolism to do it with from the additional conditioning work you have been doing. In addition you won’t feel as hungry as you would if drastically cutting calories right from the start.