[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
i keep constantly hearing people saying stuff like you are guaranteed better results if you eat “clean”
can someone honestly tell me how simply eating these “clean” foods, provides better results than fitting “junk” into ones diet[/quote]
You said fitting “junk” into ones diet. Nothing wrong with that. This assumes there is overall balance and rationality to the plan. Cheat foods, like Brick said, provide sanity/comfort, etc. There was a recent study showing that beer consumption is good for you simply for the reason that the beer drinkers like beer.
[quote]…assuming all macros and micro nutrients are the same.[/quote] Absolutely if macros and micros are the same there will be minimal difference. The issue is that “fitting” “dirty” foods into the diet likely:
- does not have the same micro nutrients. training obviously places additional demands on the body. Many people are deficient in many micro-nutrients to begin with
- usually contain much higher amounts of inflammatory oils (trans fats, and corn/soy oils)
- usually are much more contaminated (chemicals and or germs)
Clearly, not having a balanced diet can present many of the above three issues as well. A person shouldn’t spend a large amount of time worrying about their diet, but educating yourself about your food supply is critical too. Bodybuilding is the name of the game, so you cannot disregard health (and no, I am not saying that occasional deserts or a trip to McDonald’s will harm your physique)
The other point I’d like to make is that many people notice they get visibly leaner by removing gluten containing foods from their diet.
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Good post.
Some other stuff…
I can’t understand why some foods are labelled as “dirty” or “cheat”. For example, for lunch today I had leftover turkey sausage, homemade tomato sauce (whatever concoction my 1/4 Italian fiance uses to make it, sometimes from fresh plum tomatoes, sometimes with processed tomatoes), and artichoke-and-cheese ravioli from Trader Joe’s.
There are actually people who consider a meal like that to be a “cheat”.
Same goes for pizza, lasagna, or whatever.
Take lasagna for example, which contains:
meat
cheese
pasta
tomato sauce.
Take pizza for example, perhaps my favorite from a place here, Buffalo Chicken pizza.
Ingredients:
dough
chicken (probably some flour on this here)
tomato sauce, hot sauce
blue cheese dressing
cheese
What is the inherent problem with any of these ingredients and what is so harmful about any of them individually? Pretty much nothing. It’s just that somehow, all these ingredients making a recipe add up to a “cheat meal” (I’m disregarding the whole gluten deal). [/quote]
I think cheat meals happen when you don’t count macros at all. For instance if you make lasagna, you can control the portions of each ingredient and roughly guess the macros. Even if you buy a pizza at trader joes, you could look at the nutrition info on the box. But if you get pizza delivery, chinese take out, or what have you, you don’t really how much of what you’re eating
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That’s true. But as i’ve expressed, I don’t count all macros. I only count protein and total caloric amount.