Oh my. That is quite a meander.
Whatâs the intended purpose of circumcision and how do their purposes differ by sex?
Câmon man, youâre smart enough to acknowledge that it is a false equivalence.
Do you consider âsocial reasonsâ to be any reason that isnât financial in nature? Even the financial nature, Iâve met quite a few left leaners, like ED, that simply acknowledge they have more than enough money to live the way they want to, so they put much less stock in the taxes debate.
There are a few high ranking salesmen at the company I work at who could really give 2 shits about their tax rate, because for them their sales numbers are just ways to keep score on whoâs winning.
Furthermore, âpockets pickedâ implies something that isnât deserved and/or is forced. If a high earning left leaning person believes in the programs being enacted with his/her tax dollars, theyâll be MUCH less inclined to consider taxes as picking their pockets.
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Yes. And thankfully, the most people understand the difference in self-interest and the public interest.
Just stirring up conversation
Too bad tax dollars arenât spent on âpublic interestâ their used to pay interest on national debt.
You have your anti-government analogy a little off. âPockets Pickedâ implies subterfuge and stealth.
If you maintain the government is taking wealth they have no right to (ancap/libertarian) then the proper analogy is âTributeâ. Itâs like when the Mongol Hord parks outside your city and demands money. If you donât hand over the demanded money the army will come and take all of your wealth and life by force.
Itâs the same with tax law. So long as you comply and remit the money, the government takes their cut without force. If you break the laws then the men with guns come and seize 100%. Resistance is fatal. Thereâs nothing stealthy about it.
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Thatâs dumb, it makes no sense - if the borrowed money paid for something in the public interest, sure that interest is also something spent on the public interest. Itâs part of the cost of paying for that public interest item now as opposed to waiting or foregoing it entirely.
Define public interest.
Government spending left the arena of public interest long ago
Welfare of the general public (in contrast to the selfish interest of a person, group, or firm) in which the whole society has a stake and which warrants recognition, promotion, and protection by the government and its agencies.[quote=âtherajraj, post:177, topic:229275â]
Government spending left the arena of public interest long ago
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In some cases, yes, in others, no.
I agree, but there is a remedy for that as I have already suggested. They can send the government as much money as they like. They donât have to impose their will on the rest of us.
If some wealthy lefty earns one million bucks a year and wants to pay more than the $395,000 that they owe the feds (assuming no deductions) then they can simply throw in an additional $105,000 and make it an even 50% in taxes. Go for it leftiesâŠ
As a women I think itâs not healthy for a women to be circumcised. I donât agree with the women in the video at all. I donât feel this subject has anything to with âequalityâ I think itâs just something for the new age feminist to bitch about.
While I agree that I donât think the subject of circumcision is an equality issue (male circumcision =/= FGM), I think there is a legitimate grievance against infant male circumcision; itâs not just something new for modern feminists to bitch about.
Maybe I am ignorant on this subject but why is male circumcision wrong?
Would you agree, that to them, your position seems equally insane?
Youâre free to wander homeless and destitute you know. Taxes arenât a requirement to live, just to live comfortably.
Except they do. Without the proper legislative changes, something like sending them a check does nothing, as the programs they want to implement donât exist.
All that aside, I 100% understand your motivations for wanting lower taxes, and to a lesser extent, I would be thrilled to see my taxes going down. But not everybody has the same goals or wants in life. Itâs simply short sighted to think of them as insane or wacky, when they simply have a different set of priorities as you.
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I personally wonât go as far as to say itâs definitively wrong, but there are people (some have even stated so in this thread) who are against its practice.
I think the general argument follows this line of thought:
- A circumcision is a permanent procedure
- The only demonstrated benefits are reducing ailments that an individual would likely encounter at at a sexually mature age (i.e. a time when they can make their own decision on circumcision).
To quote The American Academy of Pediatrics âhealth benefits of male circumcision outweigh the risks, but the benefits are not great enough to recommend universal newborn circumcision.â
It originated in religious/cultural practices, and certainly that is one of the main reasons it is still done today. I donât feel there is any clear right or wrong in this regard. Personally, if a parents is of such a background and chooses that for their child, I have no qualms with it, but some people think it encroaches on the rights of the child since it is a permanent procedure, which I understand as well.
Some people are against it because they think it is traumatizing on the infants and has lasting effects. Again, I think if thatâs your view as a parent, thatâs up to you.
My parents are not religious, but they are both physicians and decided to have me circumcised. Itâs all Iâve ever known down there.
In my opinion female circumcision is mutilation as there are no benefits. I do see the benefits of male circumcision and donât consider it mutilation. Iâm sure some would disagree with me. The woman defending this is wrong and if I was a doctor I would refuse such practice. Just my opinion.
Donât worry, itâs not just your opinion that female âcircumcisionâ is mutilation; it is fact.
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No, wanting to keep more of ones hard earned money is anything but insane. How ludicrousâŠ
First of all, the ultimate penalty would be loss of freedom. If you donât know that then you donât understand how the system works. Paying the government is the smartest option and one that I choose to do because of the great penalties that would be levied.
Wrong, read the constitution. Where does it say that I am responsible to support someones child who lives 10 states away? The government is too large and does too many things for too many people. And the left is primarily responsible for this. And it is insane and they are wacky for expecting the rest of us to want more of our money stolen for things that, in the end, do not make people better, only more dependent on government.
Donât think so? Google âgreat war on povertyâ. There are more people dependent on government now than before the second worst modern day president LBJ launched his great war on poverty.
The leftâs ideas DO NOT WORK. If you think they do show me a financially successful major City or State where there has been long-term left wing rule.
This debate need not happen. The left has failed it has been proven repeatedly. Which only makes me wonder aloud why do people who have good jobs (not with the feds) vote democrat?
Back to where I started!