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Christmas is to Celebrate Christ!

Again, with the Christmas shopping season upon us – yes you heard correctly…I still use this most hated term, “Christmas” – I thought it appropriate to remind all of us of the ‘reason for the season.’

That reason is the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ – the Messiah of Israel and the Savior of the world!

So in our mad rush to the stores for gifts, let us remember the One who this most sacred holiday (lit. “Holy Day”) is dedicated.

May you find the time for Him.

Merry Christmas!

Before anyone gets offended at the idea of Christmas being celebrated as a Christian holiday commemorating the birth of Christ, just think of your options:

You could celebrate the birth of the Persian god Mithra, who was born of a virgin on December 25th, 1400 BC. He was born in a cave, and his birth was witnessed by shepherds and magi bearing gift. During his life he cast out demons, healed the sick and performed other miracles. After sharing a last supper with his 12 disciples, he sacrificed his life, emerging from his tomb three days later to return to heaven, around the time of the Spring Equinox (Easter).

Alternatively, if Mithra is not to your liking, you could celebrate the birth of the Egyptian god Horus, also born on December 25 to a virgin. He too was born in a cave, his birth being foretold by a star in the east and attended by three wise men.

Horus was baptized in the Iarutana river by Anup the Baptist, who was later decapitated. Accompanied by his 12 disciples, Horus performed many miracles, fed bread to the multitudes, cast out demons, walked on water, and even raised a man, El-Azar-us, from the dead. His personal epithet was “Iusa” (the Ever-Becoming Son). Other titles included “The Good Shepherd”, “The Lamb of God”, “The Word Made Flesh”, “The Way, the Truth and the Light”, as well as “KRST” (the Anointed One).

Horus was crucified between two thieves, buried in a tomb for three days, and then resurrected, to reign for a thousand years.

Of course, just to mix things up, you could also celebrate the birthdays of Attis, Frey, Thor, Adonis, Tammuz, Cernunnos, or any of the other gods whose births are traditionally believed to have occurred around the 25th of December.

If you are going to celebrate the Roman holiday of Saturnalia (feast of Saturn), be sure to remember the following pagan tips, which may sound a bit exotic in these enlightened times:

  • Decorate a tree with colorful bits of metal and candles, representing the sun god.

  • Deck the halls with boughs of holly, the sacred plant of Saturn, and the symbol of friendship and good fortune.

  • Hang up mistletoe and kiss beneath it, mistletoe being a symbol of fertility.

  • Go from house to house, singing festive songs.

  • Feast with family and friends.

  • Exchange gifts.

If you are one of those who believe that Jesus was actually born sometime in January or February (according to Matthew 2), and that Christmas is just a thinly disguised Saturnalia that was renamed by Constantine once he converted the Roman Empire to Christianity, you can always emulate the Pilgrims and Puritans, who banned Christmas altogether, under pain of imprisonment for heresy.

Otherwise, Merry Christmas to all.

The best evidence seems to indicate that Jesus, or whoever inspired the mythological tale of Jesus, was actually born on the 29th of September: http://www.new-life.net/chrtms10.htm

In 5 B.C. no less.

You’re two months late for Christmas 2011, so STFU about it.

[quote]Varqanir wrote about holidays.
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Fads come and go. It’s good to know there is something stable in this world.

Santa will be DEFINITELY putting coal in some posters’ stockings!

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Santa will be DEFINITELY putting coal in some posters’ stockings!

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Maybe it’ll be Keyshia Cole.

actually I have read in many books that Jesus was actually born on august 21, 7 B.C.

Maybe he’ll bring SteveO a muzzle so he can’t keep trolling about christ…fucking asshole.

Whenever Jesus was born (if he existed), it was most probably not in December.

It’s a pagan based holiday, celebrated to help the conversion of Romans to Christianity be a more smooth transition.

And there is no fucking “war against christmas”. Jews and Athiests would just appreciate some “and a happy holidays”. Seriously, it’s like people think we’re OFFENDED byt he word Christmas. Nope, it’s a matter of equality, not offensiveness.

“Merry Christmas and a happy holidays” would be just fine for the majority.

Stop with the Jesus pushing. Seriously, it’s like your trying to convert people or something.

Jesus (if he existed) had some damn good ideas. Ideas that are being completely ignored by pretty much everyone.I don’t believe he was the Son of God and never will.

Stop with the crappy, non effective propaganda.

Bwahahahahahaha!

Well Steveo, I’m taking your present back you stupid trolling fuck.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Before anyone gets offended at the idea of Christmas being celebrated as a Christian holiday commemorating the birth of Christ, just think of your options:

You could celebrate the birth of the Persian god Mithra, who was born of a virgin on December 25th, 1400 BC. He was born in a cave, and his birth was witnessed by shepherds and magi bearing gift. During his life he cast out demons, healed the sick and performed other miracles. After sharing a last supper with his 12 disciples, he sacrificed his life, emerging from his tomb three days later to return to heaven, around the time of the Spring Equinox (Easter).

Alternatively, if Mithra is not to your liking, you could celebrate the birth of the Egyptian god Horus, also born on December 25 to a virgin. He too was born in a cave, his birth being foretold by a star in the east and attended by three wise men.

Horus was baptized in the Iarutana river by Anup the Baptist, who was later decapitated. Accompanied by his 12 disciples, Horus performed many miracles, fed bread to the multitudes, cast out demons, walked on water, and even raised a man, El-Azar-us, from the dead. His personal epithet was “Iusa” (the Ever-Becoming Son). Other titles included “The Good Shepherd”, “The Lamb of God”, “The Word Made Flesh”, “The Way, the Truth and the Light”, as well as “KRST” (the Anointed One).

Horus was crucified between two thieves, buried in a tomb for three days, and then resurrected, to reign for a thousand years.

Of course, just to mix things up, you could also celebrate the birthdays of Attis, Frey, Thor, Adonis, Tammuz, Cernunnos, or any of the other gods whose births are traditionally believed to have occurred around the 25th of December.

If you are going to celebrate the Roman holiday of Saturnalia (feast of Saturn), be sure to remember the following pagan tips, which may sound a bit exotic in these enlightened times:

  • Decorate a tree with colorful bits of metal and candles, representing the sun god.

  • Deck the halls with boughs of holly, the sacred plant of Saturn, and the symbol of friendship and good fortune.

  • Hang up mistletoe and kiss beneath it, mistletoe being a symbol of fertility.

  • Go from house to house, singing festive songs.

  • Feast with family and friends.

  • Exchange gifts.

If you are one of those who believe that Jesus was actually born sometime in January or February (according to Matthew 2), and that Christmas is just a thinly disguised Saturnalia that was renamed by Constantine once he converted the Roman Empire to Christianity, you can always emulate the Pilgrims and Puritans, who banned Christmas altogether, under pain of imprisonment for heresy.

Otherwise, Merry Christmas to all.[/quote]

wow… cool post.

[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Whenever Jesus was born (if he existed), it was most probably not in December.

It’s a pagan based holiday, celebrated to help the conversion of Romans to Christianity be a more smooth transition.

And there is no fucking “war against christmas”. Jews and Athiests would just appreciate some “and a happy holidays”. Seriously, it’s like people think we’re OFFENDED byt he word Christmas. Nope, it’s a matter of equality, not offensiveness.

“Merry Christmas and a happy holidays” would be just fine for the majority.

Stop with the Jesus pushing. Seriously, it’s like your trying to convert people or something.

Jesus (if he existed) had some damn good ideas. Ideas that are being completely ignored by pretty much everyone.I don’t believe he was the Son of God and never will.

Stop with the crappy, non effective propaganda.[/quote]

The answer to your “command” for me to stop is NO.

All I am saying is that the Christmas holdiday which we do celebrate in this country as a national holiday no matter what its origin or when Jesus might have been born is all about and only about CHRIST. The fact that there might be other holidays around the same time nothwithstanding – we don’t nationally celebrate those other holidays. How do I know that? The answer is that because the national holiday is called and is only called “Christmas.” Therefore, it is to celebrate the birth of Christ.

Merry CHRISTmas.

[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
All I am saying is…[/quote]

LOL. Oh look, it’s grade school. I’m just saying… (said with a lisp).

Steveo, are you gay? You sound gay.

[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Whenever Jesus was born (if he existed), it was most probably not in December.

It’s a pagan based holiday, celebrated to help the conversion of Romans to Christianity be a more smooth transition.

And there is no fucking “war against christmas”. Jews and Athiests would just appreciate some “and a happy holidays”. Seriously, it’s like people think we’re OFFENDED byt he word Christmas. Nope, it’s a matter of equality, not offensiveness.

“Merry Christmas and a happy holidays” would be just fine for the majority.

Stop with the Jesus pushing. Seriously, it’s like your trying to convert people or something.

Jesus (if he existed) had some damn good ideas. Ideas that are being completely ignored by pretty much everyone.I don’t believe he was the Son of God and never will.

Stop with the crappy, non effective propaganda.

The answer to your “command” for me to stop is NO.

All I am saying is that the Christmas holdiday which we do celebrate in this country as a national holiday no matter what its origin or when Jesus might have been born is all about and only about CHRIST. The fact that there might be other holidays around the same time nothwithstanding – we don’t nationally celebrate those other holidays. How do I know that? The answer is that because the national holiday is called and is only called “Christmas.” Therefore, it is to celebrate the birth of Christ.

Merry CHRISTmas.[/quote]

The United States is not Christian.

The Christian lobby is just powerful enough to get those holidays off.

And Christmas isn;t a “national holiday”. It’s a religious holiday. Employers CHOOSE to let there employees off from work b/c of Christmas. Why do you think Chinese food places stay open?
Us Jews gotta eat somewhere ya know?

(And the truth comes out! My family is Jewish O.O)

Anyone know where I can get a good aluminum pole for Festivus?

Why can’t I just sacrifice the King like I always do, and be left in peace?

Christmas is to celebrate the tradition of American economic superiority by going into debt over the purchase of useless shit that will end up in a yard sale by the next Christmas shopping season.

[quote]vroom wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
All I am saying is…

LOL. Oh look, it’s grade school. I’m just saying… (said with a lisp).

Steveo, are you gay? You sound gay.

[/quote]

No, are you?

[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
No, are you?[/quote]

Yes you are. I think your rabid “Christianity” is an attempt to repress your homosexuality.

Keep trying man, it’s not totally buried yet!

We LIBERALS got Christmas TOTALLY cancelled last year, and we’re doing it again this year!!!

WATCH OUT!!! The War On Christmas continues!!!

Bwhahahahahahahahaha!!!