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Chinese Teen KILLED for Internet Addiction


#1

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g0fTUUMSN98L3XxqH5bwAytMyx6gD99TBNR80

[b][u]Chinese teen dies at Internet addiction rehab camp

By HENRY SANDERSON (AP) â?? 1 day ago[/u][/b]

BEIJING â?? China is investigating the death of a teenager who was allegedly beaten to death in a camp designed to treat Internet addiction, state media said.

Deng Senshan, 15, died Sunday, less than a day after his parents sent him to the camp in southern Guangxi province, Xinhua News Agency reported.

The case has led medical experts to call for laws regulating centers that treat obsessive Web surfing. Concern over such behavior is so widespread in China, and demand for rehabilitation is so great, that some camps now advertise on television, the report said.

Deng was found vomiting and was taken to a clinic where he died. Fellow students said a teacher beat him, Xinhua reported.

The report quoted the local government as saying several marks were found on the boy's body. It said four trainers from the Qihang Salvation Training Camp in Nanning city have been detained.

Police and government authorities in Nanning could not be reached for comment Thursday.

Controversy over the methods used in addiction-treatment camps led the Ministry of Health to issue a notice last month banning the use of electric shock therapy on Internet addicts at one hospital in eastern China.

Tao Ran, director of the country's first Internet addiction treatment clinic under a military hospital in Beijing, told The Associated Press that such deaths are bound to happen because few camps employ scientific methods, with most opting for crude military-style discipline.

Tao said 40 percent of those addicted to the Internet suffer from attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, and find it difficult to obey orders at training camps.

"They are only one-fourth or one-fifth as efficient in their academic life," he said. "Once you put these kids to the training camps or schools, they are bound to have problems with the teachers, because ... they can't be still, while the training is all about keeping still."

Internet addiction is a big problem in China because 200 million Internet users are between the ages of 15 and 35 and many lack self-control, Tao said. Students at high school and college also face enormous pressure from parents to succeed academically.

Tao's clinic has treated about 5,000 Internet addicts since 2004.

Xinhua said the numbers of treatment facilities and addicts treated have soared in the past few years in major cities.

China's National People's Congress has estimated that 10 percent of China's Internet users under age 18 are addicted. Chinese psychologists say symptoms include being online more than six hours a day â?? playing games or looking at pornography rather than working or studying â?? and getting angry when unable to get online.

Deng's father told Xinhua his son spent all his time on the Internet. He said he sent his son to the camp after seeing an advertisement on television.


#2

[quote]Professor X wrote:
China’s National People’s Congress has estimated that 10 percent of China’s Internet users under age 18 are addicted. Chinese psychologists say symptoms include being online more than six hours a day â?? playing games or looking at pornography rather than working or studying â?? and getting angry when unable to get online.[/quote]

If this is the definition of internet addiction, I think half of the United States has the same problem.


#3

[quote]jo3 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
China’s National People’s Congress has estimated that 10 percent of China’s Internet users under age 18 are addicted. Chinese psychologists say symptoms include being online more than six hours a day Ã?¢?? playing games or looking at pornography rather than working or studying Ã?¢?? and getting angry when unable to get online.

If this is the definition of internet addiction, I think half of the United States has the same problem.[/quote]

LOL.

Oh shit, “LOL” is a sign also. Fuck. I mean, “WTF”. Damn it!

We are all FUCKED!


#4

[quote]jo3 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
China’s National People’s Congress has estimated that 10 percent of China’s Internet users under age 18 are addicted. Chinese psychologists say symptoms include being online more than six hours a day Ã?¢?? playing games or looking at pornography rather than working or studying Ã?¢?? and getting angry when unable to get online.

If this is the definition of internet addiction, I think half of the United States has the same problem.[/quote]

6 hours a day is a lot

putting the internet over more substantial priorities like work/school is also a problem.

not saying you can’t do those things when you’ve finished what you NEED to do but if youre calling out of work and getting D’s just so you can stay up til 4 in the morning playing WoW, you have a problem. simple as that.

doesn’t mean you should get beaten to death over it though.


#5

Damn…


#6

I find it funny how they advertise these camps on TV.


#7

I’m on the internet 6-7 hours a day at work. So really I’m working and I do school online so am I addicted?!

Gotcha!


#8

If I can’t spend Six hours a day looking at porn, then I don’t want to live in America.


#9

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Damn…

[/quote]

That’s what I said.

Why can’t people sort out problems like this at home, without having to resort to “rehab camps”?


#10

Imagine the guilt his parents must feel. They thought they had his best interests in mind sending him to camp.
All they had to do was take away his PC at home and be diligent in monitoring his actions - like good parents are supposed to do.

Sad all around.


#11

[quote]Fuzzyapple wrote:
I’m on the internet 6-7 hours a day at work. So really I’m working and I do school online so am I addicted?!

Gotcha![/quote]

Way to completely twist around and misinterpret something!


#12

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
If I can’t spend Six hours a day looking at porn, then I don’t want to live in America.[/quote]

If I get 6 hours a day, I call it a bad day. Oh well, time to get out more often.


#13

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Imagine the guilt his parents must feel. They thought they had his best interests in mind sending him to camp.
All they had to do was take away his PC at home and be diligent in monitoring his actions - like good parents are supposed to do.

Sad all around.[/quote]

The only way something like that can happen though is if it is socially ok to rip some other parents’ kid’s ass apart. I mean, Catholic schools catch a lot of negativity about their punishment protocols but I have never heard of anything like this.


#14

6 hours a day isn’t really that much, considering before computers it was 6-8 hours a day watching tv.


#15

Everybody in China gets killed. Worst place in the civilized world apart from the middle east, if you consider that region civilized.


#16

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Imagine the guilt his parents must feel. They thought they had his best interests in mind sending him to camp.
All they had to do was take away his PC at home and be diligent in monitoring his actions - like good parents are supposed to do.

Sad all around.

The only way something like that can happen though is if it is socially ok to rip some other parents’ kid’s ass apart. I mean, Catholic schools catch a lot of negativity about their punishment protocols but I have never heard of anything like this.[/quote]

Is all this really that surprising? Not to sound like a racist here but human rights are consistently violated in China. Police forces killing demonstrators. Torture being used by the government as punishment. Let’s not forget the living standards of a lot of ‘housekeepers’.
The culture there is different than in the west. They have different values.

Again, I do not want to sound like a racist so I will leave it at that.


#17

6 hours a day is an addiction?
I guess my job is forcing my to be an internet crazed addict!! 12 hours a day on this thing!


#18

I’ve never spent more than 3 hours a day on the internet, until I found T-Nation that is…


#19

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Imagine the guilt his parents must feel. They thought they had his best interests in mind sending him to camp.
All they had to do was take away his PC at home and be diligent in monitoring his actions - like good parents are supposed to do.

Sad all around.[/quote]

Agreed.

But I will say though that most of the Chinese don’t have internet at home and they are spending all this time in Internet Cafes. When I was in China the Internet Cafes used to be full pretty much all of the time, it was only about $0.15 an hour as well so pretty cheap.

When I say full all the time I mean that these kids must have been skipping school to come to the internet cafes and even in the “small town” I was in there was tens of internet cafes. So the parents would think they were at school and if they found out they weren’t they’d have to look around in all the many different Internet cafes to try and find them.

I remember a couple of times parents coming into the cafes when I was there and taking their kid out.

Obviously the parents who sent their kid to these camps are stupid but you have to realise that the parents who do this are probably very poorly educated. They most likely don’t understand or believe in disorders such ADHD and thing that the only problem is not enough discipline. These parents would be about 40+ years old. When they were growing up China was a very different place, there was way more poverty and way less education and way more “Mao”.

All these parents are very diligent in monitoring their kid. The kids probably have ADHD and they could even have dyslexia which would be another reason for them to want to avoid school.


http://www.investigacion-psicopedagogica.org/revista/articulos/4/english/Art_4_43.pdf

Prevalence of ADHD and dyslexia among children of about 1 in 20 and 3% respectively. With more children then are people in America, about 365 million, that gives 15-18 million kids with ADHD and about 8-11 million with dyslexia and possibly an overlap between the two. Unlike the US in China these things are much less likely to be diagnosed and treated. So I wouldn’t be too hard on the parents they probably feel bad enough already.

The guys running these camps taking advantage of these parents and the Chinese government officials letting the camps operate on the other hand they are the ones to blame.


#20

[quote]Der Candy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Imagine the guilt his parents must feel. They thought they had his best interests in mind sending him to camp.
All they had to do was take away his PC at home and be diligent in monitoring his actions - like good parents are supposed to do.

Sad all around.

The only way something like that can happen though is if it is socially ok to rip some other parents’ kid’s ass apart. I mean, Catholic schools catch a lot of negativity about their punishment protocols but I have never heard of anything like this.

Is all this really that surprising? Not to sound like a racist here but human rights are consistently violated in China. Police forces killing demonstrators. Torture being used by the government as punishment. Let’s not forget the living standards of a lot of ‘housekeepers’.
The culture there is different than in the west. They have different values.

Again, I do not want to sound like a racist so I will leave it at that. [/quote]

That’s not racism, that’s just the way it is. Racism would be saying, “well they have to spend that much time looking at the internet because they can only see half as much of it with those chink eyes”

Seriously, I’m not surprised either that people would die in a Chinese military style camp aimed to break an addiction, because there is a lot of corruption and lack of regulation in many areas the government doesn’t deem a threat to their power and control. Kids sometimes die in those juvenile offender diversion boot camp style places here in the US, so you can imagine what goes on in places like China or Russia. I’m surprised they have rehabilitation camps for internet addiction. Is it really an addiction. Are there withdrawal symptoms? I spend too much time screwing around on the internet, but when it’s down, I just do other things. I don’t need to up my psych drug dosages over it.

To paraphrase Half Baked:
“I used to suck dick for coke, now that’s an addiction man, you ever suck some dick for internet access?”