One of my friends regularly talks to his powder supplier on the phone - he is a MASSIVE customer.
The source is big enough that he can reship a 10,000g order without a blink.
I have been in urgent talks with my friend over the last 2 days.
It looks VERY bad at the moment, and could go either way. Either the factories will have t shut down because the law in China will make it illegal to export without the proper documentation, etc.
Modafinil and clen are scheduled drugs in China, and this may have been what caused certain sources to have already been arrested. If you know someone who reminds you of a ‘lion’ - he’s in prison. Other sources are in hiding, including my one.
And yes, it’s the fault of the olympics, and the FUCKING AMERICAN ‘WORLD POLICE’. Ohhh, steroids are bad, and you should stop making them because we say so. Bollocks.
However all is not lost.
It could be resolved soon, with a typical Eastern mentality ‘about face’, i.e. create a scapegoat or loophole that efectively allows a sidestep of the law.
Steroid powders may still come from china, but modafinil and clen, unlikely.
I have been searching for mew sources ll afternoon. At the moment, I’m more worried about the modafinil, believe it or not, but my chemist friend and I are trying out a new source for steroids.
Needless to say, you can save asking me for sources, lol. In time, I may reveal, but at the moment it’s every man for hiself, plus I wouldn’t want to steer anyone down a bad path…
Keeping fingers crossed
Thats bad bad news to hear…
Didnt realise that guy was in prison…have attempted to contact him and his email is on autoresponse saying he will be back on a specific date so I figured he was just underground for a while…
Yeah man, I’m REALLY woried about the moda myself since I fuckin live of the stuff!! Really like it…it’s my version of a morning coffie. belive it or not, like yourself, I’m more worried about the lack of that stuff than I am about juice…since the price is ridiculously expensive if you buy from internet pharmacies…once you go powder it’s a nightmare to go back to anything else!!
Sure hope they use the scapegoat approach…they have done so many times in the past for things completely unrelated to steroids…but I think the '08 games might be putting massive pressure on them. I mean, they REALLY wanted those games…so I think they’ll probably crush anything that gets in the way of the games or threatnes to make them look bad in front of the whole world.
For sure though, we’re gonna have to sit tight for a while with our fingers crossed. Your tight lippedness on sources is probalby a good idea (even though I’d love to know…lol!!!), but it’s fuckin loose lips on the boards which has gotten all homebrewers into this crappy situation in the first place. Always thought the long, very public, discussions on various sources was a bad idea.
Just a random though bushy or RJ (or anyone else), do you see any other powder markets opening up if it transpires that the chinese market falls for good??? Possibly India for example, or maybe south america etc?? ANy other countries which would come close to the level of pharmaceutical raw material manufacture that the chinese do?? No idea what the legal situation re. hormone powders is in those countries but wisdom would suggest that where there’s demand (which there certainly is) a supply will arise…
Gonna have to find myself a cheap moda source now dammit!!! Really wish I didnt sell the powders I bought a while back!!!