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Changing Esters- Cycle Input Please

so ive decided to go with some longer ester gear. in the past ive used test prop, mast, tren ace, ect. sa far as the tren goes 50 mg ed was very effective with limited sides.
the cycle looks like this

test e - 400 mg weekly
eq - 600 mg weekly
tren e - 200 mg weekly (after 6 weeks will sub mast e for tren)

cycle will be 12 weeks with test taper for pct. adex on hand if needed. not to concerned with tren gyno due to low dosage.

im 6’2 215 10 % bf. this is basically a lean mass cycle.
will pin twice a week

is 200 mg tren e enough? (never used tren e before what can i expect? )

in my old age (40 +) i ve found less is more. do you guys think the dosages are broken down correctly? i know 1200 mg a week is a substanial cylce. when planning this i tried to figure what was the lowest or most moderate effective dosage for each compound. thanks

It is not ideal to use tren e before ever using tren a. If unwanted sides do occur it will take several weeks to get it out of your system. However you are using a rather low dose, possibly too low. I think that 300mg/week would be a better fit. More results at what still is a low dose. The only other thing I would do is possibly switch your test and EQ doses, or at least bump up the test to at least 500mg/week. Just my .02.

2thepain he said he’s used Ace at 50mg ED before.

200mg of Tren E is a very low weekly dose and if you were ok with 50mg of Ace you can probably handle 400mg of Enanthate, since minus the ester weight its about the same about of Tren. Not saying don’t run 200 but rarely do guys reduce dosages from previous cycles which is what you’d be doing if you went with anything less than 400.

As far as Test vs EQ goes its a bit odd to have more EQ than Test but maybe not a deal breaker if you don’t change it

[quote]sapasion wrote:
2thepain he said he’s used Ace at 50mg ED before.

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Shit, major oversight on my part. Disregard first 2-3 sentences of earlier post.

[quote]spec 107 wrote:
so ive decided to go with some longer ester gear. in the past ive used test prop, mast, tren ace, ect. sa far as the tren goes 50 mg ed was very effective with limited sides.
the cycle looks like this

test e - 400 mg weekly
eq - 600 mg weekly
tren e - 200 mg weekly (after 6 weeks will sub mast e for tren)

cycle will be 12 weeks with test taper for pct. adex on hand if needed. not to concerned with tren gyno due to low dosage.

im 6’2 215 10 % bf. this is basically a lean mass cycle.
will pin twice a week

is 200 mg tren e enough? (never used tren e before what can i expect? )

in my old age (40 +) i ve found less is more. do you guys think the dosages are broken down correctly? i know 1200 mg a week is a substanial cylce. when planning this i tried to figure what was the lowest or most moderate effective dosage for each compound. thanks

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Hey bud,

I would say you know your body better than anyone. I’m using an identical dosage for my upcoming cycle, minus the eq. While as stated already usually eq is matched or lower than test in a cycle, I don’t see a problem. Maybe if your libido hits the tank drop some viagra or cialis, ha, haa.

I doubt it though with 400/week test sitting there that you would have a problem. I’m like you with regards to less is more also. Only difference with me is I’m using the longer ester tren out of the gate. Mainly for convenience. And while 2the and most use at least 300/week of tren for best results, I’m willing to bet you and I will each get a considerable boost from the lesser 200/week dose still. It’s enough for some substantive gains imo easily.

    We'll have to wait and see I suppose.

Anyway, looks good to me, and good luck with it.
Keep us posted, you’re joining a growing shortlist of T/Tr and other cmpds being run right now, Congrats!!

         The cola of big boys indeed!

                   ToneBone

I see nothing wrong with the way you have your cycle planned.

Keep in mind the EQ is going to linger in your bloodstream considerably longer than the Test or Tren, so adjust accordingly.