Career Change, Dealing with Social Pressure

As one final note, people who tell you to get a hobby or a girlfriend or whatnot haven’t had this type of job: the job is your girlfriend, is your hobby, is your “whatnot”: you’ll be spending untold hours working there and, if you want to be good at it, investing your “leisure time” in things relating to it.

[quote]MinusTheColon wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

You ^ are 29 and still growing up.

OP Get done with school and THEN take a fucking vacation, go snort blow of a hookers ass in Taiwan, go run with the bulls, do whatever the fuck you want for a few months.

Then come back and find a job you like.

Find a hobby you like.

Find a woman that you get along with in life and fuck her brains out.

Then post back pictures of said woman. [/quote]

Just fyi.

OP probably understands that education at our level is as much an investment as it is anything else. If it’s not something you actually want to do longer term, then it’s not a prudent investment. And if you take a break after and opt for some other line of work, you are going to be financially underwater.
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I did not say opt out for another career.

I said find a job, meaning find a job you went to school for.

Nobody pays you to fucking play video games and beat off to midget porn.

I spent 14 years going to college to become a FNP, then worked my ass of to now own a company. The age we live in about finding your passion and do what you love is 100% Bullshit and making people delusional. Its a fucking JOB.

It pays the bills.

It pays to find some high quality women.

It gives you the luxury to go on vacation and have a great hobby.

Welcome to fucking adulthood.

Sorry its Friday and I am in that kind of mood : )

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]MinusTheColon wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

You ^ are 29 and still growing up.

OP Get done with school and THEN take a fucking vacation, go snort blow of a hookers ass in Taiwan, go run with the bulls, do whatever the fuck you want for a few months.

Then come back and find a job you like.

Find a hobby you like.

Find a woman that you get along with in life and fuck her brains out.

Then post back pictures of said woman. [/quote]

Just fyi.

OP probably understands that education at our level is as much an investment as it is anything else. If it’s not something you actually want to do longer term, then it’s not a prudent investment. And if you take a break after and opt for some other line of work, you are going to be financially underwater.
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I did not say opt out for another career.

I said find a job, meaning find a job you went to school for.

Nobody pays you to fucking play video games and beat off to midget porn.

I spent 14 years going to college to become a FNP, then worked my ass of to now own a company. The age we live in about finding your passion and do what you love is 100% Bullshit and making people delusional. Its a fucking JOB.

It pays the bills.

It pays to find some high quality women.

It gives you the luxury to go on vacation and have a great hobby.

Welcome to fucking adulthood.

Sorry its Friday and I am in that kind of mood : ) [/quote]

Being a doctor or a lawyer at a major firm is not just a job–it’s a lifestyle decision.

Op- I know two non practicing mds- ibanking (I’m serious) and consulting are absolutely open to someone with your education- you can also find myriad jobs with healthcare start ups in an advising/client generation role.

A few things:

  1. for those responders who say to “finish school,” he’s already finished school, and he’s already a doctor: he’s in his residency.

  2. To the OP, my brother’s friend is an anesthesiologist, and, once he got a regular position, he has a pretty awesome schedule (if you don’t mind long but infrequent shifts) and a pretty good life. But, he ultimately enjoys his job, so if you don’t, and you’ve given the residency a good shot, it definitely is time to think hard if you really want this position. But, if its just the hours and lifestyle beating you down, remember there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Tackle it like you would a training question. What is your goal, and is what you’re currently doing helping you get there?

Thanks for all the replies. Certainly food for thought

you hate your job
go to work having bad day
someone dies
is it still about you?

[quote]TBT4ver wrote:
A few things:

  1. for those responders who say to “finish school,” he’s already finished school, and he’s already a doctor: he’s in his residency.

  2. To the OP, my brother’s friend is an anesthesiologist, and, once he got a regular position, he has a pretty awesome schedule (if you don’t mind long but infrequent shifts) and a pretty good life. But, he ultimately enjoys his job, so if you don’t, and you’ve given the residency a good shot, it definitely is time to think hard if you really want this position. But, if its just the hours and lifestyle beating you down, remember there is a light at the end of the tunnel.[/quote]

x2 on all of this.

One of my college football teammates is now an anesthesiologist.

He sounded a little bit like you in his first year of residency. Nearly quit.

Now he’s a lot happier and more comfortable. Schedule has improved, feels better at the job, enjoys it more and has time for leisure activities.

FWIW, I believe (at least where I’m from) that anesthesiologists (the attendings) have arguably the best combination of schedule/salary/lifestyle of any specialty.

This isn’t to say your stress and loathing of the job isn’t real. But it might help to consider the possibility that it all feels worse because you’re SO stressed and sleep-deprived right now that you just can’t see the light at the tunnel.

And if you feel that you absolutely, positively can’t handle it…then quit. And I don’t mean that negatively. It can be the right choice. Just make are that you’ve got a plan of SOME kind…that will make it much easier to break the news to Mom and any friends. You don’t have to present it as just “I quit because I couldn’t handle it” but instead “I decided to do X instead because I think it suits me better at this time.”

I’m with Derek on this one. You are in a position to start making some real money. Go make some of it and gut it out for a while at least until you put some of it in the bank. And if you have any debt at all, then, quitting now is a terrible decision, IMO. You can re-evaluate after you have seen some financial return on your investment.

Unless you have family money and don’t need to actually make a living, then my advice might be different.

Doctors without borders

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If you enjoy learning, how about a career in research or medical school teaching?

Time had an article last month that seems pertinent to your situation: Stress, Burnout and Depression in Doctors | Time

Have you considered talking to someone about what you’re going through? This may be way more common than you think and might give you reason to stick it out a bit more.

[quote]Xav wrote:
I’m a long time lurker here and have always been impressed with the insightful advice given on here, on more than just lifting.

I have started my anesthesiology residency a couple of months ago and am absolutely hating it. Every morning driving to work I consider crashing my car into a tree. I simply hate everything about it. Extremely fed up with medicine. I could write a book about why I’m hating it, but that doesn’t really matter.
However I obviously have an objectively bright future: well respected profession and high paying job… but at what cost?
I was wondering if people on here have experience with leaving the beaten track, leaving a high paying job. How in the world did you deal with peer pressure and reaction of family?[/quote]

I’ll alert Mrs. (Dr.) Jewbacca to your post and see if she can help.

She dumped a lucrative surgical career for basically a volunteer position helping women who were genitally mutilated and got a lot of grief for it, including from me who paid for her schooling and was a little peeved at my rate of return.

It was, however, the correct choice, as she has found her calling.

[quote]Xav wrote:
90% is boredom (during surgery when nothing happens), 10% is pure panic, the procedures which were challenging in the beginning are already starting to feel extremely repetitive, the responsability of having a patient’s life in my hands all the time…nearly every single action I do in the hospital is potentially lethal. Yet, everything is extremely rushed and chaotic.

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This is what I love about my job, but I’m a firefighter. I would say that you spent seven years of your life to get here, you cannot quit after only a few months. I would make a commitment to work 3 years, no matter what, then think about quitting. Look at it as a prison sentence if you must, but keep your head down and do your time.