Oh, we agree on a lot more. I have no problem with complexes. I intend to try them at some point. For me it's a matter of preference. I saw all the results I was after without diving into any crazy conditioning tools like prowlers, sprints, tabatas, complexes, etc. I think people just tend to underestimate workouts like the one I posted. I spent a large portion of my rest time dry heaving while training like that.