[quote]friedrice683 wrote:
Of course it “works” but saying that carbs + fat promotes fat gain is bull!
You’re saying if I eat a sweet potato with 10 grams fish oil for like half of my meals a day, them being my carb and fat sources and say for my other meals I eat a cup of spinach (basically zero carbs so doesn’t really count) and like 8oz chicken, that I am gonna get “Fat”?
No…like I said. The Dr SHOULD have said AVOID PROCESSED foods that are high in both fat and carbs, like I originally said.
Also, fat does not raise the insulin levels of a meal. Saturated fats do, mono unsaturated and polyunsaturated fats do NOT raise insulin levels and have been shown to slow the release of glucose throughout the blood.
There for, do not cancel out fats from carbs and protein, what I actually suggest is keep fat under 10g the first 3-4 meals a day and then keep carbs under 15 for the last meals
Now this isn’t completely separating them but it is SOMEWHAT, but it isn’t swearing off fats from carbs and vice versa.
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You’re kidding right? What you “suggested” is pretty much exactly what Berardi says word for word: don’t mix “large” amounts of fats with “large” amounts of carbs.
This is quoted from Massive Eating reloaded part 1:
"In other words, I suggested eating a few meals that contain protein and carbohydrate (P+C) and a few meals that contain protein and fat (P+F). Now, while I never suggested entirely eliminating fat from P+C meals and carbs from P+F meals, I noted that this plan is designed to minimize the occasions you combine lots of C and lots of F in the same meal. "
First you say its total complete bullshit then you turn around and say the exact same thing. Did you even read the articles?
Second of all "eating a yam with 10 grams of fish oil? That is a “best possible situation” which he said is ok. Again, since you are hard headed we are talking about avoiding large amounts of carbs and large amounts of fats.
For the most part I think this is spot on. Especially if you are carb sensitive like the majority of people are.
Eating carbs and fat might also be an excellent situation for someone who needs to increase calories in general, especially someone extremely ectomorphic. (like you)
Also, like the above poster said you’re really not in the position to be handing out dietary advice and ripping on the professionals here. At 5’11" 138 lbs (unless you are female) instead of calling Berardi’s stuff bullshit, (which is pretty stupid in itself) I suggest you read more and digest his articles especially “Massive Eating.”
Berardi is one of the best in the biz because he gets results. So whatever you think you know at 5’11" 138 you are only making yourself look stupid trying to correct him.