[quote]Hannibal King wrote:
I don’t care what anyone says. Ketosis is NOT overrated if you’re looking for fat loss! Don’t go over 30gms of carbs/day. period. I lost 35lbs in 3 weeks by getting on a ketogenic diet. That’s not all water weight my friend. Sorry, but the Surge will kick you out of ketosis. Especially if you’re consuming any other carbs.
That 30 gram rule is bullshit. Depending on your protein, fat, and total caloric intake, your carbs should fall between 0 and 20 to get into ketosis. The higher calorie, protein, and fat, the higher the carbs can go, and visa versa.[/quote]
well, it may or may not be bullshit… and to be honest… my carbs don’t go over 8-10 grams per day. So I think I know what ketosis is. However, I do think 30 grams is pushing it especially considering macronutrient/calorie variables. So I prefer to agree with you on this. Also, at a minimum, 60-70% of your calories should be from fat! If you think thats rediculous then go do some reading.
A note on muscle loss though… If you’re planning on competing then perhaps long term ketosis is not ideal. However, adaptive ketogenic type diets may be helpful… i.e. BodyOpus, Anabolic Diet, etc. Just go ask many of the guys in the Anabolic Diet thread… I think Dan John would also agree.
I have no care in the world to compete, I just want to look good… sure I’ve experienced muscle loss… but at the expense of losing much more fat. so boohoo! Like I said, it depends on your personal goals. Just look at Vince Gironda… are you gonna call him scrawny or say he could have looked better because of him using his maximum definition diet!!! I sure hope not. … but to each his own.
If anything, ketosis is underrated. For anyone truely interested in a low-carb approach to athletics there’s a wealth of knowledge in the Anabolic thread here and also check out the www.lowcarbmuscle.com forum. It’s my opinion based on credible scientific studies that maintaining a low carb high fat diet throughout life is more beneficial in many more ways than just fat loss.