I have also refuted this reasoning in the same threads that you do not have time to find. You don't even have to search! Go in Supplements and Nutrition and just go to the 2nd or 3rd page and you will find a Carbolin 19 thread.
When is the last time you called a customer service line to tell them that the product you bought was working fine. Do you call up your computer company every day and say "hey I just wanted to let you know that I have no problems today!" "Hey Cingular, my service is working great!"
My point is this... many people have had success with the product. They don't feel the need to post it 900 times because someone is too lazy to make 3 clicks on a forum to find it themselves. Why should they? They did their research, you do yours. If you cannot put in the effort to learn about the product how can you expect to get anything out of it!?
The only people that are going to post repeatedly are the people who did not have success with the product. That and general supplement nazis. Why? Because they feel ripped off and those people are always the loudest. Were they ripped off? No, because its a money back garauntee! Carbolin 19 is so versatile that there are so many ways to measure product success.
I used it... did I get huge? No. Why? I wasn't training to get huge. I did end up leaner at the same body weight as before and my VO2 Max increase beyond normal expect results. Does this mean anything to you? Probably not.
So if you are looking for results pertaining to your goals you are better off searching then hoping they will make the effort to post here.
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