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Carbolin 19 and Lactic Acid Training

My next program in 3 wks is gonna be the lactic acid training for fat loss.
Im considering using Carbolin 19 and Methoxy-7 stack is this a good combo or is it containdicated with a lactc acid program. im currently on my 2nd month of Methoxy-7, HOT-ROX,and Alpha Male and Grow! 4x a day

Could you outline the “thinking” behind this…what mix are you doing? 4x a day of supplements seems enough w/o training…

[quote]WORKING wrote:
My next program in 3 wks is gonna be the lactic acid training for fat loss.
Im considering using Carbolin 19 and Methoxy-7 stack is this a good combo or is it containdicated with a lactc acid program. im currently on my 2nd month of Mythoxy-7, HOT-ROX,and Alpha Male and Grow! 4x a day[/quote]

Sorry coach just reread what I wrote.
im taking Methoxy-7,HOT-ROX,Alpha Male as directed on the bottle now.

Grow 4x a day now.

Ill be finished with those in 3 weeks. Im gonna start the lactic acid training in the article posted recently. and was wondering if
Carbolin 19 and Methoxy-7 stack are contrindicated with lactic acid training.
hope that clears things up.

I’d say using Methoxy-7 and HOT-ROX are enough for LA training - I’d personally save the Carbolin 19 for bulking.

I really can’t see how any supplement could be contraindicated on any program regardless of the training specifics. What is your reasoning?

My reasoning is that from what i’ve read Carblin 19 is more for mass and strenght. Where im trying to drop wt because im a fatass 260lbs 25%bf which is down from 295lbs but I have long way to go. goal of 210/220. was wondering if this would inhibit wt loss goals

HOT-ROX is for weight loss. Carbolin 19 is for gaining.

[quote]Need4Speed wrote:
HOT-ROX is for weight loss. Carbolin 19 is for gaining.[/quote]

I understand that HOT-ROX is for fat loss. Im a big believer in cycling things in and out of your program so you dont build up a tolerance and then
they become less effective. I’ve already been on HOT-ROX 2 months. Jst like someone who takes alot of pain meds has to take more and more meds to
get the effect they in the beginning.

So my question was whether this would be a reasonable alternative for a few months before going back to HOT-ROX
Thanks Working

If you’re thinking of bulking or maintaining weight, then yes, it would be a reasonable alternative. If you’re still thinking of cutting while on Carbolin 19, you’ll probably sabotage yourself, because Carbolin 19 increases the appetite in many people.

FWIW, most Biotest supps do not “build up a tolerance”, i.e. cause down-regulation. Cy has responded to this question specifically about ten jillion times.

Even though my apetite, and consequently my caloric intake as well, is increased while using Carbolin 19, I still lean out while using it.

Based on the full article of Carbolin 19, which I would expect you’ve read if you’re considering using it, is for a longer-term body composition alteration compared to an all-out bulking cycle or cutting cycle. You’d primarily want to use it for gaining LBM while reducing BF, but over a series of months vs. weeks as with some other supplements or AAS.

If your main goal is reduction of BF then I’d stick with the HOT-ROX if I were you. As was said, you should not have to be concerned with receptor down-regulation with HOT-ROX as you might with some other fat-loss products or as was the case w/ephedra.

I’d save the Carbolin 19 for when you’re attained a weight you’re content with and are ready to gain LBM while loosing some BF - a slower body composition change. That’s, of course, if you feel it’s a product that provides results.