I’ve been going to doctors and pt’s for 8 years. Seen at least a dozen doctors and dozen pt’s. It feels like my legs are out of alignment, like the upper and lower legs aren’t oriented with respect to each other correctly.
Every time I go to a doc or PT, they tell me that I only have minor issues, glute weakness, lack of stability, but it feels like major issues. I do glute work, stabalization work, etc, and nothing changes. In fact, everything only gets worse, slowly but steadily.
I’ve consulted with well known names in the mobility game, and they’ve not been able to help.
How do I find someone who will actually stick with me and help? I’ve tried the conventional doc/PT route, and it’s been a utter failure. I have less than nothing to show for 8 years of work.
I’m about to snap. Doctors don’t care to do any digging into my issues. Neither do PT’s. They just plop me into a set formula/program, and if that doesn’t work, they send me away.
First of all, you haven’t given us any information about what’s actually wrong besides saying my knees are out of alignment. Are you having knee pain? are they limiting your function? Or are you just mad they are out of alignment for aesthetic reasons.
No offense but you come off sounding like a hypochondriac. Once you let symptoms or issues take over your entire life you lose hope, stay positive and focus on other improvements aka function.
You’ve consulted with all the well-known names in the game, yet continue to blame all them for your issues. Sounds like you might need to take a look in the mirror and start taking some accountability in your life. If your legs are out of alignment and not causing problems then jimmyity crickets I bet half the forums would take that over most of their current issues. You gotta deal with the hand you’ve been dealt. Most knee alignment issues stem from the foot or the hip, Have you had anyone examine your feet or have you tried any orthotics? [/quote]
BHOLL, I’ve read some of your posts and it’s a safe bet you know your stuff. Since you’re fairly new to this site, there’s some things I’d like to point out.
Although the purpose of the Injury Subforum is well-intended, it does, unfortunately, attract the following:
- People who actually do NOT want to get better. I know this sounds absurd; however, there are those who subconsciously do the exact opposite of what’s necessary in life.
My best guess is that, by suffering from their respective affliction, they now have an excuse to NOT reach their goals. Some of these people actually relish their self-imposed martyrdom.
NOW, OP - understand that I’m NOT accusing you of being in this category. Whether or not you are, I’m not sure nor do I care. For now, I’ll keep what my instincts are telling me to myself.
- There are also those in this forum who do want to improve their situation yet THINK they know how to fix it.
Well, this begs the question: Why are you here?
Basically, these are the folks who ask for advice and, if what they hear doesn’t match their preconceived notions, will dismiss any advice you give them. Or sometimes they’ll just pick and choose the aspects of what you tell them that they like. IME, this approach rarely yields optimal results. A highly skilled and experienced professional writes out a comprehensive program knowing that the whole is greater than the sum of its part. To take a bit here and a bit there often ruins the integrity of the program.
These folks also tend to display an entitled or even argumentative attitude.
Recently, a guy in this subforum tore his pec (in addition to a groin injury earlier in the year). Not only did he ignore my offer to help his groin injury, he balked at anything else I advised because I didn’t bench/dead/squat to his standards. Rather than trying to debate such a moronic line of thinking, I decided to have fun with him; I challenged him to a 1-on-1 meet, about a year from now, in his precious little lifts (after he heals, of course) for money. Comically, he back-pedaled. Shit-stains like this are the rarity. But don’t be surprised if you meet others like them. He’ll no doubt return with another set of injuries in the future (either under his original account or as a ghost).
- And there are those who, thanks to some horrendous advice (sometimes given by the very authors or the “celebrity” posters on this site) have gotten injured and they genuinely do want to get better. These people, I wager, are the reasons you contribute to this subforum. Just know that they’re in the minority.
Ultimately, I can’t and won’t tell you who to advise and who to ignore. I will say that, in the 3+ years I’ve been a member of this forum (and several years more as just a lurker), I’ve seen a handful of very very impressive posters leave. Although they never gave specific reasons, I suspect they eventually reached a conclusion that the headaches of dealing with category 1s and 2s did not justify the time to reach out to the 3s. Call me jaded, yet I wish someone had given me similar advice when I first started advising folks here.
I have genuine problems. I have tons of crepitus. Chondromalacia diagnosed via MRI. Some fluid on the knee. Partial tear to left quad tendon per MRI - since repaired. Occasional pain, but not severe. So the hypochondriac thing is out.
I know it sounds odd, but my legs look and feel different than they used to. Yes they’re less muscular, but that’s only because of the problem has set me back quite a bit. The very shape of the muscle is very different, as is the location of the patella, and the fat pad below the patellar tendon.
And it feels like my legs are going to buckle inwards, particularly any time I’m on one leg.
I’ve been to PT’s who say everything is fixed, and not a single symptom feels better. So not wanting to get better is out.
What am I looking for?
Something different. [/quote]
Things we can’t change:
Crepitus-most people have it, nothing we can do for it
Patella-femoral damage already done (cartilage)
Repaired left quad tendon
location of the fat pad
shape of the muscle
Things we can try and address:
Fluid in the knee-try wearing a rubber knee sleeve with exercise and 1 hour post, it may help to prevent fluid fluctuations while also providing some proprioceptive input aiding in stability.
Knee Buckling-we need more info, stairs, do you feel a loose body is it bilateral?
What stabilization exercises are you performing to address this issue, it sounds like you need to learn neuromuscular control of the knee. Are you performing single leg variations promoting co-contraction?
Why do you allow your knees to ever go in because a.) it causes you instability and b.) it places your knee in a vulnerable position to be injured.
You only have occasional pain?? I’m sure most people would take that any day of the week.
C.) Why are you squatting ATG? You realize this is horrendous for your meniscus and cartilage, I would’t have uninjured people do this, let alone someone with a partial quad tear and knee pain. Other than that your squat form looks decent. [/quote]
Fluid isn’t really an issue. It’s not visible from the outside, but some doctor did an ultrasound that showed some minor accumulation.
My knees don’t actually buckle. However it feels like they are already buckled inward, and are stuck there. It feels like the lower leg has rotated out of position or twisted with respect to the upper leg, or the other way around. The end result is that even when my knee is directly over my toes, it still feels like it’s buckling inward.
My knees always feel extremely vulnerable.
Single leg stuff makes the sensation far worse.
I don’t allow my knees to go in. In squats I have always made an effort to keep my knees at least in line with my toes and have better form in that respect than almost anyone I have ever seen in any gym in 10 years.
I wanted to learn to do the olymptic lifts. That’s why the ATG. And I’ve heard parallel squats are worse for knees than ATG.