[quote]debraD wrote:
I think if we (Canadians) are content with words like fuck and cunt being banned from the public airwaves I see no issue with faggot being on the list too. It seems a little bit late (lol) but it isn’t really unreasonable considering. (I think you can’t say fuck or cunt but I might be wrong, since you can say fuck on Canadian TV)[/quote]
yeah what’s up with that? After 10, you get full frontal hot dog and major profanity on the CBC. Earlier, if it is considered a “Canadian content art film”. Quebec City offers free porn in every hotel room after 10 too. That the CRTC has a problem with the word faggot on the radio is hilarious in light of what we get on TV. Also if Dire Straits were a Canadian band, they could sing about the butt-sexs sans lube and they would have full radio rotation, based on the “Canadian content” laws.[/quote]
I was wondering about that too. I really appreciate that we can get dialogue uncensored on tv because there is nothing worse than the ridiculous dubbing that goes on on American TV. Fast Times at Ridgemont High is a particularly fine example if you’ve ever seen that on TV.
I don’t care so much about the radio rules though. I like the profanity on TV but we have the radio going at work and we’d be forced to listen to cbc radio if passer’s by started to get offended and complain because there are only a couple of stations here to choose from. Maybe that is why the different CRTC rules. But who knows what really goes on.
[quote]debraD wrote:
I think if we (Canadians) are content with words like fuck and cunt being banned from the public airwaves I see no issue with faggot being on the list too. It seems a little bit late (lol) but it isn’t really unreasonable considering. (I think you can’t say fuck or cunt but I might be wrong, since you can say fuck on Canadian TV)[/quote]
yeah what’s up with that? After 10, you get full frontal hot dog and major profanity on the CBC. Earlier, if it is considered a “Canadian content art film”. Quebec City offers free porn in every hotel room after 10 too. That the CRTC has a problem with the word faggot on the radio is hilarious in light of what we get on TV. Also if Dire Straits were a Canadian band, they could sing about the butt-sexs sans lube and they would have full radio rotation, based on the “Canadian content” laws.[/quote]
Mark Knopfler and Sting are British. They might have meant the pork meatballs that we have in the UK which are also called faggots, in which case this whole thing is just a huge misunderstanding.
[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
Mark Knopfler and Sting are British. They might have meant the pork meatballs that we have in the UK which are also called faggots, in which case this whole thing is just a huge misunderstanding.
Yes, I’m aware that this is highly unlikely.[/quote]
A faggot is also a bundle of kindling or a cheesecloth full of herbs for a stew (I think)
I thought the song was describing how someone else views the narrator. Mimicking someone complaining about the current generation or something like that.
[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
Mark Knopfler and Sting are British. They might have meant the pork meatballs that we have in the UK which are also called faggots, in which case this whole thing is just a huge misunderstanding.
Yes, I’m aware that this is highly unlikely.[/quote]
A faggot is also a bundle of kindling or a cheesecloth full of herbs for a stew (I think)
I thought the song was describing how someone else views the narrator. Mimicking someone complaining about the current generation or something like that.
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It seems vaguely possible that Mark Knopfler was under the impression some people thought he was one of the above.
@rehand_bl: It is more than that. It was meant as a satirical comment on those that think and talk that way. Sometimes I think those in ‘control’ in regulatory functions wouldn’t recognize satire and freedom of speech if it bit them in the balls.
[quote]mudshark wrote: @rehand_bl: It is more than that. It was meant as a satirical comment on those that think and talk that way. Sometimes I think those in ‘control’ in regulatory functions wouldn’t recognize satire and freedom of speech if it bit them in the balls. [/quote]
i was just giving a simplified recount
[quote]PaddyM wrote:
People really have a problem with the banning of one of the most offensive and pejorative terms in our language?[/quote]
I have a problem with banning words in general. As do most people who understand that banning a word won’t solve the problem - if people want to discriminate and use pejorative terms, they’ll just find a new word. It doesn’t mean they won’t be able to express their hate.
‘See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
Yeah buddy that’s his own hair
That little faggot got his own jet airplane
That little faggot he’s a millionaire’
It is still total bullshit though and is exactly why radio needs to be privatized.
Does anyone know how this works for satellite radio ? If this ban includes satellite I would be even more pissed off. For that matter- In general does the CRTC have any control over sat radio? How about in the U.S? [/quote]
The Canadian government, and the CRTC, had nothing to do with this decision. It was the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council, an association of private broadcasters, that made a decision to ban the offending word “faggot” from Canadian airwaves, based on a single complaint from a listener in Newfoundland.
“The Canadian Broadcast Standards Council (CBSC) is an independent, non-governmental organization created by the Canadian Association of Broadcasters (CAB) to administer standards established by its members, Canada’s private broadcasters. The Council’s membership includes more than 730 private sector radio and television stations, specialty services and networks from across Canada, programming in English, French and third languages.”
“The CBSC concluded that the presence of the word â??faggotâ?? in the song contravened the Human Rights Clauses of the Canadian Association of Broadcastersâ?? (CAB) Code of Ethics and Equitable Portrayal Code.”
The CRTC licences Sirius satellite radio in Canada. I’m guessing that, because it’s a subscription-based service, not free to air, they’re not as concerned about “offensive” content. However, the owners of Sirius Canada, Slaight Communications, the CBC and Sirius Canada, must also comply with the CBSC decision.
If they want to play the song, they’ll have to play an edited version.
[quote]dianab wrote:
I find kiddy bands and YouTube sensations highly offensive. I think I will write to the CRTC and complain, maybe they will ban then all.[/quote]
I’ll join you in the complaint, D, as long as we can toss that Justin Beiber piss ant in there as well
[quote]dianab wrote:
I find kiddy bands and YouTube sensations highly offensive. I think I will write to the CRTC and complain, maybe they will ban then all.[/quote]
I’ll join you in the complaint, D, as long as we can toss that Justin Beiber piss ant in there as well[/quote]
Top of the list Chris ( :
As for the song, it’s playing in heavy rotation, unedited, here in Montreal (my new car has an XM radio, fuckers, so I can only listen to Sirius on line for now). In fact, I think the song is getting more airplay now then it did in the 80’s.
[quote]dianab wrote:
I find kiddy bands and YouTube sensations highly offensive. I think I will write to the CRTC and complain, maybe they will ban then all.[/quote]
I hate to break it to you, but Bieber qualifies under both of those labels. And he’s Canadian.
Not that I’m a Bieber expert or anything… I actually know nothing about him, OK?.. I’m not even sure if the information I’ve mentioned is correct. Never even heard of him.
Tries to create a distraction while hiding A Very Bieber Chirstmas CD *
(I think)