Just began my first cycle this week (500mg test e/wk with frontload, adding dbol 30mg.day at week 5). After so much anxiety about the pinning I was surprised at what a nothing deal it was. I’ve been doing SC injects with MTII and I swear that was more painful than the ventrogluteal shot I did up monday. Anyway…
Question about the calorie surplus I want to be running to maximize gains on the test. Typically I’d run like 450 cal above “maintenance” while trying to gain, but I assume that while on gear I’d be able to go higher than that without it going to fat. How much of a surplus should I run, and should I wait until the test “kicks in” at week 4 (or whenever) before I increase it to that level?
Yes, 10-15% sounds more reasonable, given that last time I did a “bulk” I ended up at 22% BF and had to spend 3 months on a bicycle to get back down to something not resembling Grimace from the McDonaldland Gang.
[quote]Jimmy Ray wrote:
Yes, 10-15% sounds more reasonable, given that last time I did a “bulk” I ended up at 22% BF and had to spend 3 months on a bicycle to get back down to something not resembling Grimace from the McDonaldland Gang. [/quote]
Your avatar JR, is that you? If so, nice mullet
Anyways, you should be aware for bulking or whatever you call it, it is not necessary nor acceptable to rise to such figures (22%). That is purely a result of eating an abundance of crap… too much sugar with fat, trans fats and junk foods.
If you can get to that high a bodyfat (i never have in my life and i will work hard on never doing so…) i would suggest you use a cleaner diet when bulking. Keep tyhe wholegrain carbs, low GI and low fat (around 10-20% of total calories coming from EFA’s etc. with upto 10% of those calories coming from saturated fats).
This is by far a harder but much better way to gain, and even though i barely touch 15% at my peak ‘fatness’ i still like to bulk like this. If you end up gaining upto a quarter of your body mass as fat, then you can be sure that to drop to 6% will cost you some muscle, or at least your sanity over the next third of a year!
Plus more of what you DO gain will actually be worth keeping, and you can eat more of a surplus of calories with less fat accumulation. Win win IMO.
