Metal gear is easy to learn and use and has a very forgiving groove. Not to mention it’s very easy to get your hands on it. I have used Metal briefs and suits before and liked them both, I got around 150 pounds out of the briefs the first time I used them (you and I are the same size).
As far as Metal bench shirts go, they are a pain in the ass to touch with. I have long arms for my height (and I’m 6’4") so touching is extremely difficult. I have a denim shirt too, but it beats me up too much – like I literally have cuts on my arms and chest after using it. If I were to buy a shirt now it would be a Phenom or SDP, just because it seems to be one of the easiest shirts to touch with.[/quote]
Thanks for your help. I’m definitely going to get the Metal pro briefs and squatter. Could you tell me how you sized the briefs? That is a ridiculous carryover.
After reading around a little bit more some people have said that the phenom and SDP are also very very comfortable shirts to wear. Probably going to get a Phenom. Thanks again frankjl
Any other opinions though? [/quote]
I bought the size 50 Metal Pro Briefs. When I first got them, it took quite a while to get them on. The poly material in general seems to stretch quite a bit, so I ended up having the hips and legs taken in 1/2 inch after 4-5 months of use. You and I weigh about the same too, so I’d imagine these would fit you well.[/quote]
Depending on how tight you like your gear, I would say go a size smaller and get 48, I’ve had a pair of Metal Pro Briefs for a couple years and the poly material will loosen up over time, so I think it’s worth it to really be tight as hell the first couple times (took me 30+ minutes to get on and seated properly with help), that way they will be a competition fit. When you first try to get the briefs on it will seem like an impossible feat, but you can work them up, trust me. I like a tight pair of briefs and a little looser suit and when I was going pro/pro brief/suit combo it was nice to not feel like I was being crushed by the suit and actually be able to breath. To give you an idea on how much the material can stretch, I used the same briefs for 181 (a little loose), 198 (dialed in) and a light 220 (tight as hell and took much help to get into and out of). At 220, if I wore them too long my legs turned bluish but I got a PR squat. So the poly material will stretch out.
I really like metal squat and deadlift gear. The squat gear feels like a “hug” compared to the way the other company briefs tear and lock into your leg, so if you’re in them for an extended period, it’s nice not to be miserable the entire time. I’ve used my metal pros with a centurion (pr at 181-440), then metal pro squatter( pr at 198-500) and finally (my favorite) the leviathan (pr at 198 600 and 220 608) and they’ve been very good to me. I’ve tried a couple other briefs; predator and metal aces. The predators were the most painful briefs (hips ached and just painful to get on and off) worked with and my carryover sucked with them. The aces would have been nice if I had got more work in them, but were tossing me around like a rag doll. I always kept going back to my pros and they’ve never failed me.
The metal deadlift suit is the most painful motherf-er I’ve ever used, it literally feel like your junk is getting ripped off and jammed up into your throat. But I pull better and faster with it on and just tell myself lifting heavy shit wasn’t meant to feel good (even if this is a contradiction to my previous statement about how comfortable the briefs are).
For shirt, I like the katana, but it takes some time to get used to the groove. The problem I’ve seen with the phenom is it loosens up very quickly b/c it’s so stretchy, some guys say it looses pop even after a 3-4 workouts. Frank is right on the metal shirts, they’re notoriously hard to touch in… A good rule, unless you have alligator arms, metal shirts get you down to about a 1 board, then you just hover. I’ve heard good things about the new jack shirt (but I’m not sure if that’s legal in the IPA) about being more forgiving to touch in and having good pop. Hope that helps.[/quote]
It does! Thanks for all the advice. I’m gonna do some more research overall on the bench shirt, I’m also going to take your recommendation that I get a 48 pro brief sizing. For my birthday I’m going to get the Metal Pro deadlifter, I really liked that the last time I used it. Even though I think some of the carryover I got out of it could’ve just been a psychological result of the amount of pain it inflicts in your crotch, I experienced the same thing haha. [/quote]
Forgot to add, when I was trying to size up for briefs, I emailed Jo Jordan (he’s staff at elite) and ended up talking to him on the phone about sizing. If you measure yourself, and send them to him and let him know if you want the brief loose, for training or competition fit (generally a size down for each), he will give you good info to get the best fit, so you’re not guessing b/c the sizing chart can be a bit confusing if you’re numbers don’t match up perfectly.
Also, I missed you’re comment about the deadliest suit, and agree 100%, one of my problem is I wait around in the hole to long setting up and that suit definitely expedites the set up b/c I just want to get through the lift and get the f-ing suit off. If I even get 10lbs out of a conventional DL suit I’m happy, you’re not gonna get a ton out of them.