[quote]Kuz wrote:
thabigdon24 wrote:
Here’s my case for letting the illeagal immigrants in.
The immigrants do jobs that white people just don’t want to do. Everything from working in a chinese restaurant , to picking fruit, to working in construction in the summer or landscaping , you have to admit that the white people in america are getting fat and lazy. They will work hard and get a better wage than they could ever get in mexico. I have never met a dumb or lazy mexican in my life , im sure they exist but the people that come over here are smarter, more ambitous than the ones they left behind. Given the fact that they do lots of work that many americans dont want to do, if we DID sucessfully have border control, and kept the illeagals out, we would have a much higher degree of inflation. Fruit and Vegetables , Houses, and restaraunt meals will all experience a price leap just because we will have to pay laborors more, who would probably be unionized anyway. Don’t discount this point because nobody wants every thing to get expensive all of a sudden. Heck , the housing boom has been cited as
the force that has kept our economy going lately. That would wither and die if the prices for new homes suddenly flew up.
Those that are hungry and want work can , will, and should find work in the US i am happy to accept them here.
Seriously, the fact that walmart just got busted for having some illeagals means jack. The federal government knows that it is in over its head , and these efforts are just a drop in the bucket, but also, that illeagal immigration has a positive or more likely a slightly or fairly positive impact on america.
OK, there are several problems with your line of reasoning.
First, it ignores the issue of why people are leaving places like Mexico in the first place. The Mexican government is basically encouraging illegal immigration into the U.S. because it apparently has zero interest in any kind of economic reform to improve the conditions of its own people. Hell, they even provided pamphlets to people explaining the best ways to sneak into the U.S.
Second, its a national security risk to have completely open and unregulated borders.
Third, if the labor we are currently getting from illegal immigrants is indeed so important to our economy or they are doing the jobs no one else will, then we should do something to revise the immigration law, not just continue to allow illegal immigration. I do not know if President Bush’s temporary worker program is the answer or not, but maybe its a step in the right direction. http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/27/bush.immigration/[/quote]
I have looked at the " problems " you have presented with my arguements and i will adress them now.
Your first point is irrelevant. Granted, the mexican government doesn’t care about economic reform when it is easier to encourage unemployed mexicans to go to the U.S. The benefit to America is getting dirt cheap labor. Seriously, people b!tch now about illeagal aliens but once those housing and food prices start jumping up…
IMHO the best thing to encourage economic development in Mexico is NAFTA kind of treaties where free trade is encouraged. The U.S. has moved probably hundred of large garment factories over to Mexico, b/c of the cheap labor factor , their minimum wages is 3 or 4 american dollars so it works out. More jobs in mexico = less Mexicans swimming the Rio Grande.
Your second point is valid IMO. I agree with this, of course, the whole reason why we have terrorism in the first place is that the US has some heavy handed policies in dealing with other countries. I like GWB’s approach of taking the fight to the terrorists
( with Afghanistan anyway), b/c it discourages future acts if their homeland is invaded, but Iraq is not and has not been involved w/ 9/11 and is making the problem worse as far as terrorist activity/recruitment/providing a breeding ground for terror-related ideology is concerned.
Your third point about revising immigration laws is also irrelevant. B/c our government has been giving amnesty every few years to the workers that have been here since ____ , probably just as often as they raise the minimum wage. Of course it might look better for our government to not turn a blind eye to the illeagal immigration, and somehow changing current laws to fit the situation would be less cynical.
But ignore the affront to america, that these laws are being broken and instead try to think about the benefits or disadvantages this issue brings.