ironmanzvw - i havent done deca yet, cause i dont like the fact that its almost 2 years in your system… the thing with short cycles is that one of benefits you get is health… you can jump of the cycle right before sides kick in, and other health risks caused by steroids are minimal cause human body and organs are made to take big hits more successful than long term torture… i mean - you kill your liver drinking for many years, not just by getting drunk as fuck one weekend a year.
there was actually a study of big dosage of A-Bombs not causing any liver damage in short run(i think that study was posted on this website). But after 2 years being off deca im starting to think i might try it sometime soon.
Anyways, you could try getting NPP and have no worries at all imo.
For now, i have been doin dbol, test e, sust, tren ace and tren e. We dont have too much options in here, so i will have to try deca someday anyway.
I think that deca wont be no different cause i read on forums that many people belive that test needs some weeks to kick in, just like deca. Since test needs only 1 day to kick in(at least for me) i dont think deca is different - there is actually a chart on the internet showing that deca starts to diminish in your system after day 5 already, so all this “kicking in after 3 weeks” is either placebo, or just depends on individual, cause there is also a vid of Rich Piana on youtube, where he is saying smth about cycles mentioning that same compound(he uses deca as example) would work only for 5 or 6 weeks(cause of receptors or whatever).
As for my average cycle - i would do big doses to get all the gains in short time. Its smth like hit and run - you blast some epic dose, shock your body into growing, and gtfo as soon as possible.
Say, i would wanna do 4 weeks of sustanon 250. I would pin 1ml EOD or if id run dbol also, i could prolly stop sust a week or 3-4 days early.
As for front load - if my cycle starts on monday, i would prolly do 2ml on saturday and 2ml on sunday, and start 1ml on monday doin 1ml EOD after that.
Since its a 4 week cycle, you should also do a little front load of short esters or orals. I mean - i wont be starting dbol on monday. I would take a few in the prev. weekend or at least sunday night. Same with tren ace - you just dont want to be “almost ready” on week 1. You need to get all your hormone levels up to 110% on day one not to waste any time.
For these kinds of cycles short esters and orals are best - prop, tren, npp, dbol, a-bomb. But since we dont have many of those in here, or they are wery expensive(i mean prop is twice the price of sust, its just not affordable) i have to work with what i have and i couldnt say that its not working.
Ofc, im still a very noob, and althou i have gained a lot, on my 6’2 frame i still need a lot work done. But in the last year of tryin short cycles i know for sure - i wont be doin anything longer that 4 weeks ever again. I just have never gained shit after week 4 or 5 even when i was doin 12 weeks on deca or smth - i gained 90% of the weight in 4 weeks, some 10% in weeks 5-6, and nothing after that.
Mr.Walkway - im not tryin to advice anyone. I couldnt care less how people take their steroids. Im just sharing some of my experience, and will be happy if anyone would ever try that with some success…[/quote]
Thanks for sharing your experiences with us man. Appreciate different perspectives.
Everything I have on hand is longer esters, and Dbol. I suppose I could give your proposed strategy a try and if by week 5 I’m not satisfied I could just drop the doses and go for longer.