[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Digity wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Digity wrote:
<<< As you see, thinking for yourself can be a recipe for disaster if you’re completely clueless. >>>
I won’t make any friends with this one, but here goes anyway.
For somebody who will ultimately get it in this game, thinking for yourself as a clueless noob with all the mistakes and stumbling around is the single most valuable learning experience they will ever go through.
Someone who can’t get rolling in a relatively short amount of time without being led by the hand and babysat will probably never REALLY get it.
That doesn’t mean they should just become a sedentary slug and ditch the weights, any exercise is good, but they’ll be following whatever they read last around in circles forever.
I don’t buy that for a second. Newbs needs direction and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. If anything, I think being given proper direction from those who know what they are talking about improves the chances that a beginner will stick to bodybuilding.
For instance, imagine you’re a newb who doesn’t eat enough and does curls and bench presses all day. Now, you have another newb who is told to eat a lot more and follow the “Starting Strength” program. The first person goes nowhere and ends up getting frustrated and quits. The second person, who listened to experienced lifters, starts to see his weight go up and muscles grow and becomes even more motivated to keep going.
I’m not saying not to listen to experienced lifters or that noobs should be given NO direction. What I AM saying is that for someone who will wind up achieving high in this game everything, information wise, they need for their first year can be conveyed on a single side of a single piece of looseleaf and one intelligent 15 minute conversation. Any more than that is not only unnecessary, but counterproductive.
Working in with some experienced lifters would be fabulous, but truly experienced lifters will know that they can only help so much and he will have to develop a philosophy of his own like they did.
Noobs today are buried up to their nostrils in information that is entirely irrelevant to them and robs them of the experience of learning on their own.[/quote]
Well said. I would actually recommend most beginners AVOID reading many of the articles here until they at least understand what actually causes their muscles to get bigger. There is too much mismatched info even on this website, especially with half of the authors expressing their personal hatred of bodybuilding at every opportunity when most of that approach is exactly what they should be following.