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Bulking on 6000 Calories Per Day


#1

Hey guys just a question. Ive been bulking and had to increase my calories to 6000 per day to see positive results in both strength and size. Why am I having to eat so many calories? Im in the gym 5-6 days per week. This is not meant to be a troll post just really surprised I have to eat so much.


#2

Without knowing how much you weigh , how can anyone answer this. Why are you Training so much ? Are you sure your not a troll


#3

[quote]Sheed3K wrote:
Without knowing how much you weigh , how can anyone answer this. Why are you Training so much ? Are you sure your not a troll[/quote]

I focus on a different muscle group each day. For example today was legs. Did not do anything else.

I am 6’5 and 225 pounds.


#4

Well, you’re tall, so that’s part of it. You may also be overestimating (or underestimating for that matter).
How fast are you gaining?


#5

[quote]1 Man Island wrote:
Well, you’re tall, so that’s part of it. You may also be overestimating (or underestimating for that matter).
How fast are you gaining?[/quote]

0.5 - 0.75 pounds per week. I use My Fitness Pal.


#6

Lol you don’t need 6,00 calories unless you are training for 3 hours and then doing a fuck ton of cardio. To be honest, you probably don’t have any idea how much food 6,000 calories worth of food actually amounts to. Definitely a troll after looking at all the stupid threads you have been making.


#7

[quote]The-German wrote:
Lol you don’t need 6,00 calories unless you are training for 3 hours and then doing a fuck ton of cardio. To be honest, you probably don’t have any idea how much food 6,000 calories worth of food actually amounts to. Definitely a troll after looking at all the stupid threads you have been making.[/quote]

Oh yeah you think Im full of shit?

I drink 3 shakes, each consisting of 1 cup of vanilla ice cream, a banana, two tablespoons of peanut butter, Scoop of Whey, 2 cups of milk, and a cup of old fashioned oats.

Breakfast consists of Cup and a half of egg whites, bowl of oatmeal.

Post workout I drink a Scoop of whey mixed with water.

Then on top of that I eat 10 oz of Eye of the round for lunch, a sweet Potato, and a cup of Cottage Cheese.

Then for Dinner I eat 12-14 Oz of skinless Chicken Breast or NY Strip, 9 Asparagus spears, Brown Rice or Sweet Potato. Along with fish oil and two glasses of Milk. I also supplement with Creatine and BCAA’s and a Multi Vitamin.


#8

Calories in - Calories out

You have to eat “so many” calories to GAIN weight because your body is BURNING “so many” calories.

You have a fast metabolism. It is a combination of your activity level, body weight, and genetics.


#9

And actually, yes it is very possible he needs 6,000 calories to bulk. When I was 210 lbs at a height of 6’1" I had to eat >4,000 a day and I don’t have a particularly fast metabolism.


#10

You’re tall as fuck, that’s why


#11

I’m 6’4 and up to 270 now and have been eating 5k a day and training 4 days a week. Either you need to back off the amount of training or eat more. I’d think there isn’t much reason to train that much when you are looking to add mass. Has your strength gone up?


#12

Yes my strength gains are increasing every week. I just broke a PR on deadlift. All that food I have been eating and I only gained half a pound this week. I for sure thought it would have been more atleast 0.75


#13

[quote]GetSwoleToday wrote:
Yes my strength gains are increasing every week. I just broke a PR on deadlift. All that food I have been eating and I only gained half a pound this week. I for sure thought it would have been more atleast 0.75 [/quote]
.5 lbs a week if its consistent is all you need, why are you in such a rush?


#14

Really load up on peri workout supps/nutrition and you won’t need to eat quite so much


#15

[quote]GetSwoleToday wrote:
Yes my strength gains are increasing every week. I just broke a PR on deadlift. All that food I have been eating and I only gained half a pound this week. I for sure thought it would have been more atleast 0.75 [/quote]

There are diminishing returns on added calories because your body can only absorb a certain amount of nutrients and the more you eat at once, the more makes it “through” without being absorbed. Imagine someone who drinks a cup of olive oil. Obviously a lot of that is going to exit the body without being absorbed and there will be clear evidence of that.

So out of your first 3000 cals you may be absorbing 2700. From the next 1000 you may be absorbing another 700, then 600, then 500, so perhaps from 6000 cals you may only absorbe 4500 (just an example).

Over time your digestive tract may expand to allow greater absorption. I don’t know if there are food combinations that reduce absorption, but I would guess that high GI carbs (not sugar but starch from white rice and potatoes) may help. Also some protein sources take longer to break down. Oatmeal actually tends to transport food through the gut without being absorbed. This is one of the reasons why it lowers cholesterol levels.

Large amounts of protein powder all at once may even “cake up” and resist absorption. Some have suggested to me that a few (3-4) large carb feedings and several small protein doses (like 15 grams each hour) may work. Lots of water too may help to prevent nutrients from becoming resistant to absorption.


#16

I find it really hard to believe that Sheed at 6’4 270 eats 1,000 less calories than someone that is 6’5 225. So either you are miscalculating how much you are eating or you are doing too much in the gym.

I am all for eating a ton and working your ass off, but there needs to be balance between hard work and the ability to get the necessary food down.