I’ll outright apologize for my post and the stab taken at you. It was out of line and out of character ad I have no excuse. You’ve made great progress so far and should keep going.
That being said, I just feel, in my own personal and no one else’s opinion, that a couple walks a week does not just cut it. I mean, I get it man. I did the whole “do as little cardio as possible” thing, winch mostly revolved around dc principles/fmc, etc. It kept my bodys bf controls in check, yes, but could not find one other benefit from that.
Years later, after continuing to soak up knowledge, learn my body and watch others, I surmised and came to the “a-ha” that that shit is important. I’m doing this to be as big and awesome looking just like anyone else, but as alluded to above there is just so much freaking carry over when cardio is taken more seriously, IMO. I know this is one of those hot button topics that is cliche, and will continue to forever be debated, but I just cant stress enough the incredible changes in almost every facet of my life when I made the switch. I want the same for others, too.
Once again, sincere apologies for the rashness displayed earlier. This site seems to bring out the worst in me and maybe I ought to stop posting again.
That being said… You looked so awesome lean. Wouldn’t you rather look more like that all year long… And make the same amount of progress?!
Thanks for the apology. I was a little surprised to be honest. I don’t often get offended around this site, but the fact that you referenced something off the site (I believe you’re talking about facebook) I took it personally. Your comment did actually make me look over my photos for a few minutes and think, “hmmm…I’m I really just kidding myself?”
Anyway, I think in the long run it’s a moot point. In a matter of THREE WEEKS with Shelby, I dropped down 9lbs and got my blood pressure back to a near perfect 120/68 just from walking 6 times a week for 30 minutes and weight training…nothing else. I’m not exactly a naturally lean guy either. I think people just overestimate the damage a few months without cardio does. I’m glad I didn’t get held up on cardio and was able to leave it all in the weight room so to speak. I made pretty solid gains in strength that I don’t think would’ve happened if I was running sprints or pushign a prowler a couple times/week…I really don’t.
In reference to your comment about staying lean year round…this was my one time all out bulk…60lbs in about 15 or so months. As much muscle as I could pile on. I’m working with shelby to get myself into fitness modeling and possibly do a men’s physique comp. Believe me, from that point on, I will be staying relatively leanish year round.
You mention me looking better lean. Well I hit that leanness eating around 1800 cals/day, and only about 50g worth of carbs. I would not make half the progress I did if I tried to stay that lean. I should mention that shelby was actually working with me during parts of my bulk too, so I trusted his judgement. I am NOT naturally lean bloak. You can check my hub for pics of me before I started lifting. [/quote]
Shit man, you’re making me eat my words - hard. lol. For the record, and it still does not justify the asshole that I had displayed, but when I took that dig at you it was more of a “This is what someone looks like when not doing cardio,” not ‘This guy looks like shit - Don’t listen to him.’ Again, I still feel bad and it shouldn’t have occurred, period.
And fair enough man, I’m guessing Shelby has a decent grasp on the whole body composition thing, ha. I’m actually not someone who can get away with a bunch of HIIT consistently, so I don’t necessarily agree that someone needs to be sprinting twice a week either, plus LISS and whatever else all at once. I’ve naturally gravitated towards minimizing HIIT and utilizing LISS more frequently. I’ve noticed it doesn’t cut in to my recovery, and while boring, has definitely allowed me to keep things much tighter than ever before. I can’t imagine cutting it out these days, but I’ll be hiring a coach as well soon, and maybe he’ll tell me to fuck off with all the cardio, too. Hope not.
Anyway, I do still think each person has their own “sweet spot” that they need to find, especially when size is the primary goal, which is going to be different for all. I’m going to avoid leading this thread down the path of “lean gaining vs bulking,” because, we all know where that goes, haha. Regardless, I am excited to see what you’ll look like when lean again dude. Should be pretty nasty.[/quote]
For the record, I was doing zero cardio when I was at 10% as well as the entire time leading up to it. =) I really think people overestimate it.