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Brain Damaged Man Awakes after 10 Years

Okay, what do we all think, I know he wasn’t exactly in the same boat as Schivo, but still, it is a similar situation and kind of strange how he woke up so close to when they let her die. I just read the article so I have to think about it a bit more before I draw any conclusions. This will certainly be a great blow to the schivo family as they will no doubt believe this to be eventually what would have happened to thier daughter.

V

Got a link to this article?

here’s the link.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155344,00.html

Gee I thought doctors knew everything! I’m so shocked that something outside of current medical knowledge could happen. We do know everything and can make life and death decisions right?

nah, Veg, it’s from foxnews, of course it’s a hoax.
Just ask ProfX or 100Meters.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Gee I thought doctors knew everything! I’m so shocked that something outside of current medical knowledge could happen. We do know everything and can make life and death decisions right?[/quote]

Zeb’s right. Doctors don’t know shit! I mean, if they can’t foretell a freak occurance like this, then they’re obviously not qualified to do anything.

Give me a break.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Gee I thought doctors knew everything! I’m so shocked that something outside of current medical knowledge could happen. We do know everything and can make life and death decisions right?[/quote]

Hahaha!! Ya gotta love ZEB, man.

Dude, did it ever occur to you that maybe this guy’s cerebrum wasn’t a big bowl of jell-o, a la Terri Schiavo?

Oh wait, I know… It’s the fact that this guy didn’t have a wife who wanted to pull a feeding tube, collect insurance money, and marry some other guy, right?

This is a freak occurence, and I’m happy for the dude’s family and especially him. I hope that he recovers enough to the point where he can enjoy life again.

[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
Dude, did it ever occur to you that maybe this guy’s cerebrum wasn’t a big bowl of jell-o, a la Terri Schiavo?
[/quote]

Exactly. You’re probably not coming out of a coma when you’re missing your cerebral cortex.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Gee I thought doctors knew everything! I’m so shocked that something outside of current medical knowledge could happen. We do know everything and can make life and death decisions right?[/quote]

Right, Zeb, doctors don’t know everything. But apparently Tom Delay and his buddies DO know everything. Good thing we have men like Hot Tub Tommy to bring the full weight of Congress down to interfere in our personal lives and make these decisions for us. The other day I was sitting on the crapper and realized that I wasn’t sure whether to fold the toilet paper or crumple it. I’m thinking of e-mailing Tommy and asking him what to do. I hope someone on his staff responds soon - my ass is really itchy.

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
ZEB wrote:
Gee I thought doctors knew everything! I’m so shocked that something outside of current medical knowledge could happen. We do know everything and can make life and death decisions right?

Right, Zeb, doctors don’t know everything. But apparently Tom Delay and his buddies DO know everything. Good thing we have men like Hot Tub Tommy to bring the full weight of Congress down to interfere in our personal lives and make these decisions for us. The other day I was sitting on the crapper and realized that I wasn’t sure whether to fold the toilet paper or crumple it. I’m thinking of e-mailing Tommy and asking him what to do. I hope someone on his staff responds soon - my ass is really itchy.[/quote]

“Tom Delay and his buddies” probably know less than you and I. If you want to write off your loved ones, that is between you and them (mostly). However,
My point remains valid!

Modern medicine is not as advanced as you may think. New discoveries are happening all the time. What doctor in their right mind would have predicted that this man would one day speak after all this time?

The medical community wrote him off. If his wife had done the same thing perhaps he would not be here right now.

What bothers me about the current trend is that some think we have cornered the market on knowledge. I suppose they thought the same thing 100 years ago.

“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”

Albert Einstein

Veg, you can go back to sleep now.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Gee I thought doctors knew everything![/quote]

You thought wrong! Whoever said being an MD was an exact science?

No, but in certain cases – i.e., Schiavo – close family members who’ve previously discussed terminal care with the patient are warranted to make the decision on their behalf.

There’s a difference between “impossible” (Schiavo) and “not likely” (Herbert).

Further, whether this is even the crux of the issue, I’m unsure.

[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
Veg, you can go back to sleep now. [/quote]

Huh?

[quote]Right Side Up wrote:
ZEB wrote:
Gee I thought doctors knew everything!

You thought wrong! Whoever said being an MD was an exact science?

We do know everything and can make life and death decisions right?

No, but in certain cases – i.e., Schiavo – close family members who’ve previously discussed terminal care with the patient are warranted to make the decision on their behalf.

There’s a difference between “impossible” (Schiavo) and “not likely” (Herbert).

Further, whether this is even the crux of the issue, I’m unsure.[/quote]

Nice to have you back in action RSU where ya been?

V

The major problem was that the “brain damaged” woman in a “chronic veg state” was never allowed to have the many major tests run on her. Yes she prob would have never come out of the problem or ever fully recover, but we’ll never know because her “husband” wouldn’t let anything be done to find out her state.

Anything is possible…ie. this fireman. I would have had no problem if a brain scan, PET scan, etc. were done but they weren’t or at least to my knowledge- they weren’t. At first my logical mind said it was “ok” because it was 15 years, but when I found out that the proper line of procedure was not followed, I then had a problem with it.

[quote]Joe Weider wrote:
nah, Veg, it’s from foxnews, of course it’s a hoax.
Just ask ProfX or 100Meters.[/quote]
If its a “miracle” for a man with intact brain to comeback, I guess by now you’re starting to see how impossible it would be for somebody without a cerebral cortex to recover. (You know that place where memories are stored—picture removing the harddrive from your computer Joe, how does windows run sans harddrive?–hint: IT DOESN’T! This guy still had a brain)

plus for some real hypocrisy, thanks to the bill the Bush signed in texas you have this striking case of family values:

A committee at Hermann Hospital has decided to discontinue medical care. With chemotherapy, doctors say the child has about a 5% chance of survival. Without it, she has about two weeks to live.

On Monday morning the child’s mother told Eyewitness News that her caseworker suggested Texas Children’s Hospital might be in the process of reviewing this case and could assume Knya as a patient.

Tamiko Dismuke said, “I doubt that they were going to accept her because they have turned her down in the past. But (the caseworker) said that was on a different case. So we’re looking at trying to get her transferred. If they accept her, that’s great. If they don’t, then we just have other plans to go other places.”

If the family doesn’t make a decision by next Monday, medical treatment will be discontinued at Memorial Hermann Hospital, except for the drugs and the care to relieve pain and suffering.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/050205_local_babybattle.html

W.'s all about family values, not sure what family though.