When is your last meal BEFORE the gym? Dinner or snack night before? Lunch day before? [/quote]
Last meal before the gym is a small protein and fat meal before bed. Usually a pork product and a couple eggs or salmon and broccoli, something like that.
I live like a 15 minute walk from school (including the gym), so once I start eating I pretty much eat all day. I find that my appetite later in the day is better if I push back that first meal. If I eat breakfast first thing I’m likely to not have anything but a shake until late in the afternoon. Easier to get good calories in this way.
Without giving away the super secret patent pending details, how does ESE work?[/quote]
(Disclaimer: NO sarcasm here!)
Is that really the sort of fast we speak of here, the kind being used for IF (eg, 16 to 36 hours, and in some cases, more). When you say bed time, I assume you’re eating one or two hours before bed. But then again, I have no idea how long you sleep or how long you wait until you start lifting in the morning and eating after the workout (can’t scroll back as I type this). [/quote]
My total fasted time (not counting the whey shake) is generally 11-12 hours. I’ve done a fair amount of reading on IF and my impression is that you really are just trying to extend a phenomenon that occurs during sleep regardless of whether or not you eat first thing in the AM. By pushing back my eating until my workout I am extending that fasted state and the metabolic goodies that go along with it. Have you ever read any of the warrior’s diet stuff?
My take is that waiting to eat until after intense physical exertion is really the key along with extending that sleeping fasted state. No, it’s not a 16 hour fast, but a fasted state is a fasted state regardless of when exactly during the day you break it.