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BPH, Proscar, and DHT Compounds


#1

I just came off of 500mg Primo/wk, 50mg Winstrol/day, and 500mg Cypionate/wk, which I ran for 12 weeks. (this was great mixed with Berardi's get shredded diet)

For the last three weeks I have some symptoms of BPH or prostatitis, esp having to get up in the night 3-4 times and piss like Secretariat, especially this constant feeling of having to pee like a racehorse.

So, yesterday I went and had an exam from the doc, and he said that the prostate is definitely swollen. He also ordered a PSA and prescribed Finasteride 5mg/day.

My questions are: has anyone ever had similar experiences? and when taking Proscar, how long does it take to shrink the prostate? Would you recommend taking Proscar when running DHT heavy cycles?


#2

Finasteride won't do anything to help your prostate when it comes to DHT derivatives like winny. Finasteride only blocks conversion of test and some of its derivs to DHT.


#3

You ran a hell of alot of DHT derivatives for a long time. The H in BPH stands for hyperplasia. Your prostate didn't expand because its cells bloated and can be shrunk back down again- it actually grew additional cells, as it will continue to all your life as you age. You just sped up the process.

Drugs have only been shown to reduce size in a limited amount of patients, surgical procedures often end up being neccissary as men with BPH age. I'd also be real curious to see a before and after picture of your scalp from that cycle. DHT is not your friend, for anyone else who may be considering doing this.


#4

At 5mg proscar is very effective at shrinking the prostate & regrowing hair.
It can have side effects like lessened sex drive but some don't notice that. You may notice it even worse as you're coming off cyp


#5

Thanks for the relpies.

Thats a critcal difference then between hypertrophy and hyperplasia. The scary part actually.

I will likely run a low dose of cyp when I am on the Finasteride. Either that or start PCT, and if I do have some bad sexual sides, there is always stuff like caberoline or bromocryptine.

I would have been wise to try a PSA before that cycle and then sometime after to compare. As for my hairline, that's the one thing that never scared me much about the DHT's, I lost it years ago.


#6

Were you taking any OTC supps? I am finishing up a Test/Tren/Mast cycle that had a Primo/Test kick off and started on a OTC prostate supp 6 weeks before...so far no issues. By the way bald is beautiful I like not having hair to have to fuck with...good luck w/ Proscar.


#7

Actually, this is another thing that I found out is bad -- I took Benadryl off and on too at the same time.