I stopped playing organized basketball in primary school because my coach managed to completely sap the fun out of the game. Instead of just letting us play he would constantly lecture us about tactics and how to setup a zone defense etc.
lol. I don’t play pickup because I think it sucks not having a real strategy, plays, defense, etc.
Did you think the same way as a kid?
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Define kid. Anything from middle school up, yes I did. That’s the first organized basketball I was exposed to. Otherwise it’s a bunch of people running around and there’s a ball out there and oh those two guys ran into each other.
I stopped playing organized basketball in primary school because my coach managed to completely sap the fun out of the game. Instead of just letting us play he would constantly lecture us about tactics and how to setup a zone defense etc.
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Exactly, kids under 10 years of age don’t need to be bothered with that shit.
I stopped playing organized basketball in primary school because my coach managed to completely sap the fun out of the game. Instead of just letting us play he would constantly lecture us about tactics and how to setup a zone defense etc.
lol. I don’t play pickup because I think it sucks not having a real strategy, plays, defense, etc.
Did you think the same way as a kid?
Define kid. Anything from middle school up, yes I did. That’s the first organized basketball I was exposed to. Otherwise it’s a bunch of people running around and there’s a ball out there and oh those two guys ran into each other.[/quote]
I stopped playing organized basketball in primary school because my coach managed to completely sap the fun out of the game. Instead of just letting us play he would constantly lecture us about tactics and how to setup a zone defense etc.
Exactly, kids under 10 years of age don’t need to be bothered with that shit.[/quote]
I agree. One of the biggest problems with youth coaches is that they are too concerned with the results of competition and spend too much time focusing on tactics to win the game rather than developing their players and teaching them the game.
A kid doesn’t really want to learn how to play proper zone defense. Hell, an 11-year old doesn’t really even have the mental focus to learn how to play proper zone defense. And besides, playing zone at a young age just does one thing: only teaches the good kid to play defense because you put him/her in the middle and all the action goes to them, rather than every kid learning the fundamentals of playing defense.
To continue with basketball: a young kid will get a lot out of a coach giving them some instruction on shooting technique and then being allowed to shoot 100 shots to see how many they can make. A young player will get a lot out of spending 10 minutes going back and forth up the court trying out different dribbling techniques that are challenging for them. A young kid is not going to get a lot out of standing around watching a coach talk about strategy.
I think organized sports are a great thing. If anything, we need better organization in America to teach everybody how to play the games right and get more enjoyment out of them. I do think that just “rolling it out and letting them play” is a better idea than what some youth coaches are doing but I think it is far from the best method.
At our club we have U18 teams that are very competitive and the focus is on developing players for college. We also go all the way down to having a program for kids as young as 6 or 7. With the kids that young they will very rarely actually play a full 6 on 6 (a normal volleyball game) scrimmage. This is because at that age, what happens is the one or two better players to combine for more than 80% of the touches and the rest hardly touch the ball. In fact, I did some stats and the median (not mean) number of ball contacts at the 5th-grade and under level is around 8-10 per game. Do you really think that a kid is enjoying a game where they stand around for 20 minutes and touch the ball 10 times?
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
There is much more contact in Soccer than Baseball. I’d say Soccer is much manlier, except you don’t get to stand around and scratch your balls.
You have a long way to go if you think playing a sport makes you tough. I know plenty of pussies that played highschool football.[/quote]
I’d say getting hit with a 90+ mph fastball is manlier than spending 2 minutes on the ground crying after every time you ALMOST get hit in soccer.
[quote]colin1168 wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
There is much more contact in Soccer than Baseball. I’d say Soccer is much manlier, except you don’t get to stand around and scratch your balls.
You have a long way to go if you think playing a sport makes you tough. I know plenty of pussies that played highschool football.
I’d say getting hit with a 90+ mph fastball is manlier than spending 2 minutes on the ground crying after every time you ALMOST get hit in soccer.
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I’d say getting hit with a 90 mile per hour fastball means you’re doing it wrong.
[quote]colin1168 wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
There is much more contact in Soccer than Baseball. I’d say Soccer is much manlier, except you don’t get to stand around and scratch your balls.
You have a long way to go if you think playing a sport makes you tough. I know plenty of pussies that played highschool football.
I’d say getting hit with a 90+ mph fastball is manlier than spending 2 minutes on the ground crying after every time you ALMOST get hit in soccer.
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Looks like I hit a nerve. I’m not saying there is no contact in baseball, just that unless it is at the higher levels I don’t see it as particularly demanding.
How many kids have you seen throwing 90+ fastballs?
As far as crying from ALMOST getting hit, I’ve never seen it. Near concussions, balls kicked at close range to the face and bodyparts stepped on with cleats, but no almost hits.
I had an 9 year girl ask if she could drop back to defense so she didn’t have to run as much. When I asked her why, she told me she had a cracked rib and the doctor told her to take it easy. Brought a tear to my eye.
Baseball and “football” as you call it there are both boring as hell.
Id rather have my son play soccer than wear those gay spandexwhatever their using in baseball/football. And thats as intellectual as this threat deserves.
I play baseball, and I enjoy it and won’t hestitate to tell anybody I play it. However, I play it because I enjoy it. It is one of the least manly sports. You don’t do anything hard at all. I didn’t get a day or two off at all this year between sports seasons. I finished what I consider somewhat of an easy basketball season. It wasn’t easy, but it was easier than the previous years. I considered that while everybody else was finishing their school day at 2:30, I was finishing mine at 5:00 to 5:30. Once I got to baseball I felt like I was getting off at 2:30 because baseball practice was like just playing around for me.
Is it just me or just my part of the country but soccer seems to be rampant and football and baseball for certain seem to be languishing. I played all three and I think soccer is a very poor substitute for the others. My nephews who play soccer have no idea what they’re missing out on.
Guys need something in their lives that is uniquely male. I think our culture is wussifying boys and it worries me. I’m gonna insist my sons some day play a contact sport. Let’s face it hunting and fishing are dying out and one of the few remaining “male” activities are contact sports.
I got smashed on another thread because I said I told my nephews that if they’re playing a sport that girls play too … it’s not for them. I’m trying to get them off soccer and tennis.
I have a buddy who’s son is about 5 … he and I talk about this all the time. His wife wants to start him on soccer cuz with football he might get hurt. Classic.
I’m surprised about how many guys I talk to about this that think my concept is nuts. I’m not sure if they’re being politically correct … or maybe they never played anything but soccer and so they think I’m calling THEM wusses?
Anyway … am I alone on this?
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I have played soccer for 30 yrs now and continue to play in a top men’s league and I coach. I’m pretty sure that not a lot of people would call me a wuss. I also played football growing up in Texas and LOVED it, but there are not a lot of opportunities for me to play full contact football on a weekly basis at age 35. And if you think that the footwork, balance and body control learned in soccer does not carry over to any other sport especially football, then you are sorely mistaken. Playing a “contact sport” does not make you a man. And your rational that if a woman can play the sport then it is not for them is absurd. You better tell you nephews that weight training and powerlifting is not for them because women compete too. That would certainly make them “wussies”. As would MMA because women compete in that too.
Now go put on your orange vest and camo, get yer case of Pabst Blue Ribbon and you and your cuzzins can go sit around a campfire rubbing each others beer bellies and shotguns, reliving your glory years talking about how you ALMOST took district in pop warner football.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
colin1168 wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
There is much more contact in Soccer than Baseball. I’d say Soccer is much manlier, except you don’t get to stand around and scratch your balls.
You have a long way to go if you think playing a sport makes you tough. I know plenty of pussies that played highschool football.
I’d say getting hit with a 90+ mph fastball is manlier than spending 2 minutes on the ground crying after every time you ALMOST get hit in soccer.
Looks like I hit a nerve. I’m not saying there is no contact in baseball, just that unless it is at the higher levels I don’t see it as particularly demanding.
How many kids have you seen throwing 90+ fastballs?
As far as crying from ALMOST getting hit, I’ve never seen it. Near concussions, balls kicked at close range to the face and bodyparts stepped on with cleats, but no almost hits.
I had an 9 year girl ask if she could drop back to defense so she didn’t have to run as much. When I asked her why, she told me she had a cracked rib and the doctor told her to take it easy. Brought a tear to my eye.[/quote]
There are kids in my age group, 17-18 that can throw around 90. My post was comparing the MLB and professional soccer.
Baseball uses metal cleats and many people get stepped on and spiked. Personally, I’d rather get hit with a soccer ball than a baseball coming off someones bat. How many people have died from playing soccer??
Body and Girls need sports; Football, Soccer and Baseball. Throw in Swimming, Basketball, Hockey, Track and Gymnastics for good measure. The more they’ll move the less fat they’ll get.
‘Sport doesn’t build character, it reveals it.’
OP, your arguments are so f’lame.
Maybe you should join this football league, no women in it:
‘We don’t stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing.’
Is it just me or just my part of the country but soccer seems to be rampant and football and baseball for certain seem to be languishing. I played all three and I think soccer is a very poor substitute for the others. My nephews who play soccer have no idea what they’re missing out on.
Guys need something in their lives that is uniquely male. I think our culture is wussifying boys and it worries me. I’m gonna insist my sons some day play a contact sport. Let’s face it hunting and fishing are dying out and one of the few remaining “male” activities are contact sports.
I got smashed on another thread because I said I told my nephews that if they’re playing a sport that girls play too … it’s not for them. I’m trying to get them off soccer and tennis.
I have a buddy who’s son is about 5 … he and I talk about this all the time. His wife wants to start him on soccer cuz with football he might get hurt. Classic.
I’m surprised about how many guys I talk to about this that think my concept is nuts. I’m not sure if they’re being politically correct … or maybe they never played anything but soccer and so they think I’m calling THEM wusses?
Anyway … am I alone on this?
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No, you are not alone. Soccer in America is for little kids to get used to playing later at a real game. It is for them to learn to follow the rules, so they can play REAL games like football and rubgy.
Hank Hill said it best: “Bobby, I’d be a bad parent if I didn’t tell you this: soccer was invented by European ladies to keep themselves busy while their husbands do the cooking.”
Soccer actually lowers T levels, which explains Europe’s plunging fertility rate.