Bodybuilding's Most Controversial Exercise

The Pullover Went From Favorite to Forgotten

Back in the “Golden Age of Bodybuilding,” guys performed the now-forgotten pullover to build their upper bodies. Who says you can’t go back?

Here’s what you need to know…

  1. Some experts say pullovers are an effective chest exercise. They’re right.
  2. Some experts say pullovers are an effective back exercise. They’re also right.
  3. You can tweak pullovers to target certain bodyparts depending on what you do before or after the unique exercise.
  4. Pullovers aren’t for everyone, especially people with shoulder issues. Check your upper body mobility before diving in.

One Exercise to Hit Many Muscles

Imagine you saw a group of guys gathered near the dumbbell rack taking turns doing an exercise you’ve never seen it before, so you ask what they’re doing.

In a funny, not-quite-German accent, one tells you, “I do zis every chest workout. Ze pump you get feels incredible, like being wiz a woman.”

The second dude, with an even funnier accent, drops a 200-pound dumbbell to the floor after finishing his set. “Yeah, buddy! Love doing these with light… weight… baby!”

A wide British monster whose shadow covers half the wall chimes in. “I include this in every back workout. The stretch on the lats and the peak contraction are key.”

The fourth lifter is super-ripped and would be a great fitness model. “I’ve been doing this for years and it really built up my serratus. It makes a huge difference in my ab poses.”

Last, a real old-timer sits up after a set and tells you, “This’ll stretch your ribcage and give you the kind of barrel torso Hercules would be proud of.”

And that’s the complicated, confusing, even contradictory world of the pullover.

Years ago, it was considered one of the most important exercises in bodybuilding. Nowadays, you’re more likely to find a powerlifter on the pec-deck than you are to see a pullover being performed in the gym.

It’s time to bring this forgotten classic back into regular rotation.

When the Pullover Began

Around 1911, Alan Calvert, founder of the Milo Barbell Company and Strength magazine, declared the barbell pullover “the best exercise known for developing a deep chest.”

Ever hear of the old “squats and milk” routine, where skinny beginners are told to drink a gallon of milk everyday while training with high-rep squats? Well, from day one, the plan was actually “squats and pullovers and milk.” Seriously.

In the 1920s, a popular training strategy combined heavy, high-rep squats with light, high-rep pullovers as a fast track to building a large body. And it worked, because big lifting plus big calories are a solid combo.

If you were only going to do one or two upper body exercises (because low volume workouts were “in style” back then), the breathing pullover, as it was known, was considered a must-have.

The primary benefit was thought to be an expansion of the ribcage, from the deliberate deep breathing between reps that compounded with the deep breathing that took place during the squats earlier in the workout.

Whether or not that was actually happening, we’ll discuss later. In any case, plenty of lifters reported great results from the “squats, pullovers, and milk” plan.

The Rise and Fall of Pullovers

Through organized bodybuilding’s early years in the 1950s and '60s, bodybuilders continued to credit the pullover as being essential in sculpting their upper bodies.

A thick barrel chest was an ideal and the prevailing gym logic said you couldn’t get there without lying on a flat bench and bringing a weight to arm’s length overhead.

By the 1970s and '80s, bodybuilders had access to more fully equipped gyms with an assortment of specialized machines to better target specific bodyparts. One of those machines was the Nautilus pullover.

Invented in the early '70s by bodybuilding guru Arthur Jones, it was nicknamed “the upper body squat” as a credit to its relative importance among exercises.

But the new variety of machines also led to a lesser reliance on certain old standards, such as the free weight pullover. In the '90s, popularity of the lift dropped sharply, likely due to the rise of “functional training” and a general wussiness creeping further into gyms.

By the 2000s, non-lifting “exercise scientists” had successfully spread pullover-phobia, citing everything from impending shoulder injuries to plain old ineffectiveness, and the lift became something only seen in black and white photos.

Testimonials From Legends

Over the almost-hundred years of this exercise’s history, we find some impressive names, even if the actual why/how-to advice is conflicting.

  • Arnold credits dumbbell pullovers for helping to create his epic chest development.
  • Reg Park also considered pullovers to be a tremendous chest exercise.
  • Dorian Yates made pullovers an essential part of his legendary lat workouts, preferring the classic Nautilus pullover machine.
  • Mike Mentzer also advocated the Nautilus pullover as a superior lat exercise.
  • Ronnie Coleman did heavy pullovers as part of his back training for years.
  • Frank Zane believes that doing pullovers from a young age helped to develop his serratus muscles, which became a focal point of his signature vacuum pose.

This isn’t exactly a list of armchair lifters debating the best brand of Swiss balls. Let’s at least consider following their lead.

Certified Shoulder Killer? Not Quite

The most common hesitancy is a fear of shoulder injuries. There’s something nerve-wracking about lying down while holding a heavy weight with fully extended arms and then moving that weight precariously over your face.

Fortunately, there are a few simple steps we can take to make sure you get the most benefit:

  1. Can you overhead press with a full range of motion – knuckles touching your shoulders to arms locked straight overhead?
  2. Can you do pull-ups or chin-ups with a full range of motion – dead-hang, arms locked straight to full contraction?

If either of those are a “no,” we need to work on your shoulder and upper back mobility. Once you know your body can function the way it’s supposed to, take the exercise for a spin.

Lie on a flat bench the “usual” way, not with your body perpendicular and only the upper back across the bench. There’s no major benefit, and the “hip drop” everyone uses as they lower the weight is more of a counterbalance than actual improvement in the ROM.

Grab a light dumbbell as if you were going to do a triceps extension, palms against the plates and the handle positioned between your thumbs and index fingers.

This should be as easy as squatting with an empty bar because we’re basically learning the movement and testing range of motion, so 25 pounds or less should be plenty.

Start with both arms straight holding weight above your chest, and slowly lower the weight towards your head, paying attention to the muscles you feel stretching throughout the upper body.

Go as far back as is comfortable, while maintaining almost-locked arms, before pulling back in to the start position. As you’re doing 12-15 easy reps, try lowering a bit further until your hands are at least level with the bench, if not slightly below.

Once you’ve done an easy set or two with the dumbbell, take a self-inventory and see how your shoulders, chest, and lats are feeling – what’s tight, what’s loose, what’s getting pumped – and then repeat the test with a short barbell or EZ-curl bar using a pronated (palms-down) grip, again with a weight that should feel way too light.

If you’re feeling any shoulder funkiness after trying light weight, higher reps, and different hand positions (a little wider, a little closer, neutral-grip with a triceps bar), then it just might not be a movement for you.

Sometimes exercises can be contraindicated for some people. That’s fancy trainer-speak for, “You shouldn’t do this, and if you do, you’ll probably hurt something and blame me.”

Pullover as Pec Pumper

The dumbbell pullover is probably best known for being a chest builder, and it kinda makes sense that it should. Think about decline, flat, and incline dumbbell flyes, pec-deck flyes, and cable crossovers at all angles.

It’s shoulder extension and/or adduction – moving the arms from “back there” to in front of the body. Sounds like it’s all the same kind of movement pattern, right?

Interestingly, Bret Contreras’ work with EMG analysis makes the case for using pullovers as part of a chest workout. Contreras found that dumbbell pullovers incited more chest work than straight-arm cable pulldowns or dumbbell pullovers incited lat work.

Contreras has since added to this idea, saying:

“In November 2011, a study came out in the Journal of Applied Biomechanics that showed the barbell pullover worked much more pec than lat.

I think the pecs are in a better position to actually move the weight, but down in the bottom position, the lats get a good stretch under load. The problem is that the torque diminishes as the movement rises, so tension dissipates off the lats rather quickly.

The machine pullover rocks because it keeps constant tension on the lats through the fullest ROM. It’s like a free weight pullover and straight-arm pulldown combined. It’s an instance where machinery allows for something cool that you can’t do with free weights.”

With this in mind, if we’re looking to use pullovers for chest work, it would make the most sense to use them as one of the last exercises of the session after other muscles are already fatigued.

Even though, technically, pullovers seem to activate the pecs more than other muscles, it can be a tricky exercise that still requires other muscles to assist in the movement. Combine that with most peoples’ poor mind-muscle connection, and there are too many variables in play to make it a good choice for the first exercise of chest day.

Finish your next chest workout with barbell or dumbbell pullovers 3-4 x 8-15. Be sure to focus on squeezing the pecs to initiate the movement up from the bottom position and work on holding the squeeze throughout the rep.

Pullover as a Lat Blaster

Ever heard the technique tip for pulldowns and rows, “Focus on pulling with the elbows, forget about your hands”? Well, that’s a pullover. It’s one big lat contraction from a position of maximal stretch with little to no forearm or biceps contribution.

A properly performed pullover, or one of a small handful of variations, is also the only way to isolate the lat muscle without significant assistance from the rhomboids, teres, traps, or any of the numerous back muscles.

Fact is, trying to build a big back without including this kind of isolation exercise would be like trying to develop great hamstrings without doing leg curls. You might get the job done, but it’s faster and more efficient if you attack the muscle directly.

Because of this, pullovers tend to work best as the first exercise on back day. Pullovers can pre-fatigue the lats and improve muscle activation and mind-muscle connection.

Kayak rows (shown above) are a brutal variation of the straight-arm pulldown, incorporating not only the constant tension of cables but adding a unilateral element by alternating sides between reps.

Begin your next back workout with either dumbbell pullovers or straight-arm cable pulldowns for 4 x 8-12. Remember to focus on isolating the lats and feeling them work, so slow down the rep speed if necessary, exaggerate the peak contraction with cables, and emphasize the stretch at the bottom (or the top, with cables).

The Million Dollar Question: Can Cartilage Grow?

Remember all those folks in the 1920s who were “expanding” their ribcages expanding with breathing pullovers? Well, that didn’t really happen. Sure, their chest/back/torso measurements increased, but it was from good old-fashioned muscle growth.

Pecs can grow, lats can grow, the intercostals can even grow (relatively). But cartilage? Nope.

The pullover just happened to be a great combination of ROM and resistance that was being done by eager new lifters squatting often and eating well.

So the “ribcage” ended up growing the same way, and for the same reasons, that your triceps started growing the week you learned what push-ups were. It was a new stimulus being placed upon muscles that had never been trained, so they responded quickly.



I really like these pullovers, but yea, they wreck my shoulders.
I usually do them for a few weeks until I start to feel the shoulder pain, then lay off until recovered.
And I’m just too lazy to do all those “make your shoulders better” routines.

Thanks for the great article!

I love them. Been doing them for forty years. Reduced range of motion as I got older. But in terms of an efficient exercise for upper body, I love em. Wish the old Nautilas Lat Pull was still at Gyms. After 50 started using more of a decline and letting the floor be my safety for shoulders. Sort of like the Floor Presses. I know not as effective, but you make compromises…

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Thank you mentioning the article in your Daily Dose e-mail. I do pullovers in most chest workouts, so I found the article relevant. It was a good read and it is helpful to know that I need to remember to squeeze my pecs. Also that the hip drop isn’t really needed to increase the range of motion.

Should the arms be as straight as possible, which would mean reducing the weight used? Or is some arm bending OK? The Nautilus pullover machine (which I don’t see in gyms anymore) can be used with bent arms, apparently (note the photos of Sergio Oliva) but I don’t know if the same is fine with dumbbbells.

I think you’re 100% onto it, though. What could be less effective than being out of the gym because you injured something? Cutting out a couple inches of the ROM is a great move, more often than we give it credit, in my opinion.

My $0.02 on this is that a little arm bend is actually going to be better. I know my elbows wouldn’t tolerate locking them out anyway. You just don’t want to change the relative angle of your arms during the movement. So get a little bend, lock that in, and then get all the movement around your shoulder.

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I find that the arm bending impacts the body part being worked. For example, if I go straight arm I am hitting the chest and serratus more. When I go bent arm, I am able to hit the tri’s, especially straightening as I come to 90 degrees or perpendicular to my chest.

I have never found these effective for my back, just me though. I also gave up the super-arch and now lay with the bench, not across…

Great article and discussion. That list is a who’s who of the guys I grew up watching!


Before the Nautilus Pullover Machine, my first few years of training, we did heavy bent arm barbell pullovers off the other end of a bench press. When pulling it from the floor the bar passed close to your nose. We considered this a pec exercise that the lats assisted. We normally did 3 sets of 10 reps.

Once our gym got a Nautilus Pullover Machine that was the last day that I did the barbell bent arm pullover.

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I have been doing pullovers the last 45 years. In my opinion they are the squat for upper body. Have learned tweets to focus on chest or lats over the ears. I like for chest bent elbows single dumbell and squeeze hands together for eccentric and concentric movement, do the squeeze throughout range of motion added benefit of some lat engagement.
For lat isolation use dumbbells again but flare elbows out with slow controlled essentric and consentric movement .
Difficult to duplicate Nautilus pullover machine as I feel it most probably was the best piece of gym equipment that had ever been made

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I personally really like the kayak row or doing a straight arm pulldown bent at the waist with straps/ handles. I feel like I can really move with all lat that way. It’s definitely an exercise that takes some practice, even on the Nautilus machine for me I had to learn it

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Doing BB and DB pullovers started to cause pain in one elbow. I found that doing cable pullovers on the low pulley didn’t cause that issue. I also use lighter weight and slower concentric than the “Big Exercises,” like presses, deadlifts, etc…

Good read, but I had to laugh at the shot at functional training and the “general wussiness” comment. Things like squats, close grip bench, cleans and more are all considered functional exercises. What’s with the hate?

I remember my old YMCA in Clearwater, FL had a full line of the Nautilus. I never had much respect for them until I read Mike Mentzer’s stuff. Now, I wish I had access to some of them. I miss the
Super Pullover
Double Chest
Seated Lateral Raise
Seated Leg Extension
Leg Curl machines.

My current gym is replacing them because they are so valuable. I asked where the Super Pullover went and he said it was worth more in storage than on the floor. Replaced with some newer piece. It is going to get where you can’t find that stuff anymore.

No one has a pullover machine anymore

And in my opinion, the pullover machine is the only machine that was needed to do a better job hitting the full range of motion and muscle recruitment than free weights.
(once you get injured machines are a great substitution.)


So true…