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Body Snatchers


#1

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-5/114076441840020.xml&coll=1

and

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-23-body-parts_x.htm

I remember bringing this up a few weeks ago in relation to some foreign movie being made that contained a story about the bodies of dead captured enemy soldiers being sold in New York as "spare" body parts. While no one would go as far as to accuse this of happening in the military for real without proof, I just thought this was interesting as far as showing that anything is possible.


#2

Weird...I'm watching "Dirty Pretty Things" just as I read this.

This has always been a problem in the militaries of South Korea and Egypt. I've seen a little bit of this first hand, in my travels.

This is a huge problem in many parts of the world.


#3

I just found it funny that people were acting as if it could never happen, meanwhile, it is like the dirty little secret of the medical community. It is not unbelievable to me that there are people who would find a way to use body parts from captured and killed enemy soldiers if there was enough money to be made.


#4

Of course it is possible. Doctors have long employed gravediggers to obtain corpes fr medical experiments etc.

It is not far fetched to believe organs are illegally harvested for transplant.

People were pissed because the movie appeared to be propaganda designed to make Americans look bad and American actors were happily taking part.


#5

Yes, because we all know that all movies are propaganda.


#6

Ah yes, reminds me of a story.

This ought to creep people out a little bit...

Funeralgate
"Funeralgate" is the name given to a scandal involving George W. Bush and family campaign contributor Robert Waltrip, owner of Service Corporation International, the largest funeral home company in the world.

In 1999, Bush was subpoenaed but refused to testify in a lawsuit filed against the state of Texas and SCI by Eliza May, former director of the Texas Funeral Service Commission, who claimed that she was fired when she refused to quit investigating SCI despite pressure from Bush and his then Chief of Staff Joe Allbaugh.

The lawsuit was quietly settled in November, 2001, weeks before the revelation in the media that two Florida cemeteries owned by SCI were recycling graves, removing remains from their places of rest and placing other people in the graves.

9,000 people have staked a claim to a $100,000,000 settlement in a lawsuit stemming from the desecration of graves at these cemeteries. In one instance at Menorah Gardens, a Jewish cemetery, SCI desecrated graves and left corpses in the woods where they were devoured by wild hogs.

The general manager of Menorah Gardens, Peter Hartman, died by apparent suicide on December 27, 2001.

Bush faces questions over funeral home dispute
CNN
August 24, 1999
"It's frivolous, It is frivolous," Bush said last Friday.
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/08/24/president.2000/bush.funeral/

Governor approves the settlement of lawsuit involving President Bush
Associated Press
November 9, 2001
AUSTIN - Gov. Rick Perry has approved a settlement in a lawsuit filed by a former Texas regulator who accused President Bush of hindering an investigation into a funeral services company when he was governor, the governor's office said Thursday.

Former Texas Funeral Service Commission Director Eliza May alleged she was fired in 1999 because of her investigation into SCI, the world's largest funeral company.
http://www.caller2.com/2001/november/09/today/texasnew/17283.html

Central figure in cemetery probe found dead
December 27, 2001
MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- A central figure in an investigation into the desecration of graves at two Florida Jewish cemeteries is dead of an apparent suicide, police said Thursday.

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FEMA, La. outsource Katrina body count to firm implicated in body-dumping scandals
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/FEMA_outsources_Katrina_body_count_to_firm_implicated_in_bodydumping_scan_0913.html

The Invisible Body Battalion
A private firm's undertaker unit is witnessing the human cost of Katrina. But they're not talking.
MSNBC
Sept. 19, 2005
Kenyon International Emergency Services Inc. specializes in tending to the ruins of human catastrophe
[...]
It is a subsidiary of publicly traded Service Corporation International
[...]
Kenyon does not disclose what it pays its body handlers. But Hirsch said simply, "The pay is good."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9399130/site/newsweek/

As bodies recovered, reporters are told 'no photos, no stories'
September 13, 2005
The CNN suit was in response to comments Friday at a news conference in which officials from the Federal Emergency Management Agency said members of the news media would not be allowed to witness the recovery of hurricane victims' bodies.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/13/MNG3HEMQHG1.DTL

Six Months After Katrina -- 2000 Still Missing
NEW ORLEANS - Six months after Hurricane Katrina slammed into southern Louisiana, state officials are still trying to clear more than 2,000 names from their list of people reported missing after the storm.
http://www.tristateobserver.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=5913

FEMA Slows Search for Kids From Katrina
Washington Post
December 23, 2005
Efforts to locate 500 children still classified as missing after Hurricane Katrina are stalled because the Federal Emergency Management Agency, citing privacy laws, has refused to share its evacuee database with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, according to investigators tracking the cases.

Kenyon does not disclose what it pays its body handlers. But Hirsch said simply, "The pay is good."


#7

I wish people would be a little less squeamish about dead bodies. Personally, I want to be completely recycled, if possible. Here on T-Nation where a lot of people put a lot of time, money, and effort into making the best body they can, it would seem logical to want that effort to go as far as possible.

I'd eat soylent green, if it had enough protein.


#8

All war movies are, as well as movies about gay cowboys.


#9

How could these Hospitals be unaware? You would think that the documentation of human tissue would take care of anything as this.


#10

The people selling the body parts made it seem legit. Not only that, but don't think of all of these patients as victims. A rich man who needs a heart transplant will pay anything to get a new heart. It isn't unbelievable that people will ignore where the body parts truly come from when their own life is on the line. Money talks. The thing is, while this may not have been discussed openly before, it wasn't unknown that stuff like this happens. A donor heart is much more valuable than coke to the right customer.


#11

You would think they could tighten that up. I personally think they have to. Other wise you could have kidnapping victims turning up as donors for transplants.