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Blood Work Results


#1

I've been on 3 anavar only cycles. Each 10 weeks or so at 50mg twice a day. Then a PCT of clomid 100mg/day for 3 weeks.

I've been off anavar since April and finished my PCT in May.

I just got some blood work done and the areas I'm out of the range are the following:

Albumin = 4.9 (normal range 3.2-4.8)
FSH = 1.3 ( normal range 1.5-12.4
Total test 260 (normal range 280-1100)
IGF-1 = 285 (normal range 137-199)

Everything else is in normal range save cholesterol which has always been high.

I'm getting my last blood report that was run about 2.5 years ago to compare and contrast but from recollection only cholesterol and vita d we're off.

I do take recreational drugs (coke ghb weed viagra ecstacy) but decided to chill out with all the partying especially seeing these results.

Do you think my low t and high igf1 is due to the anavar cycles I ran?

I'm 30 years old, and I started anavar when I turned 29. I chose anavar out of others bc I don't want to lose hair.


#2

yeah, your cycles sucked.

just because it’s anavar doesn’t mean that it’s not gonna suppress your HPTA… and 10 weeks with a 3 week PCT is not sufficient.


#3

What should I do at this point?

Will my body correct itself or should I see a dr? What type of dr should I go and see? Endocrinologist? Primary? Hormone replacement clinic?


#4

what’s your estradiol level?


#5

14.1 pg/ml. Normal range in my report states 7.6 -42.6. Thanks for replying back, I appreciate it.


#6

[quote]xvsanta42 wrote:
14.1 pg/ml. Normal range in my report states 7.6 -42.6. Thanks for replying back, I appreciate it.[/quote]

i guess at this point, you could try some HCG and/or a SERM again… unless you just finished your cycle, i wouldn’t be real optimistic, though.


#7

Don’t get too upset if you’ve screwed your HPTA. Blast and cruise is a nice ride from what I hear. I’m still frigging around with HCG/PCT myself and it’s a pain in the ass.


#8

just because your HPTA is jacked up now, doesn’t mean it always will be. Get on a SERM and give that a try before you resign yourself to a lifetime of injections


#9

Check prolactin.


#10

OP:

Just a heads up. You have definitely NOT been taking Anavar. Real Anavar is only made one place on earth and it comes in 2.5mg tabs because real Anavar is extremely potent on a per milligram basis. It’s also extremely expensive to produce. As far as I know ALL UGL Anavar is actually something else - usually Winstrol. If you took real Anavar in the dosages you mention the sides would come close to killing you.


#11

Given your IGF1 levels I’m guessing you may have been taking oral tren(methyltrienolone). Tren is the only AAS I know of that raises IGF1 levels significantly. It also raises prolactin. Oral Tren is probably the most hepatotoxic oral - it’s a toss up between cheque drops and oral Tren but I’d get a liver function blood test done if I were you. Although you’d probably be very sick if you’ve been taking oral Tren. I’d look into getting bloods to test for AAS to see what you’ve actually been taking because I assure you it’s not Anavar.


#12

There are plenty of reputable UGL’s in the UK that do anavar - i doubt it is dosed as high as the claim but aside from that they are legit products…


#13

[quote]pex86 wrote:
There are plenty of reputable UGL’s in the UK that do anavar - i doubt it is dosed as high as the claim but aside from that they are legit products…[/quote]

How do you know it’s real Anavar? I’ve seen lab tests on a lot of UGL products but have never seen one for Anavar. Pharma Anavar is only made one place on the planet and it costs hundreds of dollars for 30 x 2.5mg. Typical dosage for bodybuilders would be anywhere from 5mg to maybe 20mg absolute tops. Until I see a lab test or serum test showing UGL 10mg tabs for a dollar each have any real Anavar in them then I’m going to call bullshit.


#14

[quote]pex86 wrote:
There are plenty of reputable UGL’s in the UK that do anavar - i doubt it is dosed as high as the claim but aside from that they are legit products…[/quote]

I stand partially corrected after looking into it. There is one Euro UGL lab that does Anavar 10mg x 50 tabs and they cost over $500. Lab tests say it is Anavar but they’re 4mg not 10mg. So yes, this particular UGL does do Anavar - expensive and underdosed but real. I’d still suggest OP look into possibility he may have been taking something other than Anavar though.


#15

I bought a test kit and confirmed anavar over winstrol.


#16

There are several places around the globe where you can get real anavar. It is legally manufactured in 2.5mg pills for medical use because it is also prescribed for WOMEN.


#17

[quote]Androgenoid wrote:

[quote]pex86 wrote:
There are plenty of reputable UGL’s in the UK that do anavar - i doubt it is dosed as high as the claim but aside from that they are legit products…[/quote]

How do you know it’s real Anavar? I’ve seen lab tests on a lot of UGL products but have never seen one for Anavar. Pharma Anavar is only made one place on the planet and it costs hundreds of dollars for 30 x 2.5mg. Typical dosage for bodybuilders would be anywhere from 5mg to maybe 20mg absolute tops. Until I see a lab test or serum test showing UGL 10mg tabs for a dollar each have any real Anavar in them then I’m going to call bullshit.
[/quote]

What are you talking about? Are you confusing the brand name with the drug itself? Yes, there is only one place that manufactures oxandrolone legally under the brand name Anavar.


#18

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]Androgenoid wrote:

[quote]pex86 wrote:
There are plenty of reputable UGL’s in the UK that do anavar - i doubt it is dosed as high as the claim but aside from that they are legit products…[/quote]

How do you know it’s real Anavar? I’ve seen lab tests on a lot of UGL products but have never seen one for Anavar. Pharma Anavar is only made one place on the planet and it costs hundreds of dollars for 30 x 2.5mg. Typical dosage for bodybuilders would be anywhere from 5mg to maybe 20mg absolute tops. Until I see a lab test or serum test showing UGL 10mg tabs for a dollar each have any real Anavar in them then I’m going to call bullshit.
[/quote]

What are you talking about? Are you confusing the brand name with the drug itself? Yes, there is only one place that manufactures oxandrolone legally under the brand name Anavar.[/quote]

Brand Anavar is no longer manufactured. Oxandralone pharmaceutical grade is only made in Mexico. I won’t mention the brand name as source discussion is not allowed.


#19

[quote]Androgenoid wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]Androgenoid wrote:

[quote]pex86 wrote:
There are plenty of reputable UGL’s in the UK that do anavar - i doubt it is dosed as high as the claim but aside from that they are legit products…[/quote]

How do you know it’s real Anavar? I’ve seen lab tests on a lot of UGL products but have never seen one for Anavar. Pharma Anavar is only made one place on the planet and it costs hundreds of dollars for 30 x 2.5mg. Typical dosage for bodybuilders would be anywhere from 5mg to maybe 20mg absolute tops. Until I see a lab test or serum test showing UGL 10mg tabs for a dollar each have any real Anavar in them then I’m going to call bullshit.
[/quote]

What are you talking about? Are you confusing the brand name with the drug itself? Yes, there is only one place that manufactures oxandrolone legally under the brand name Anavar.[/quote]

Brand Anavar is no longer manufactured. Oxandralone pharmaceutical grade is only made in Mexico. I won’t mention the brand name as source discussion is not allowed.[/quote]

Perhaps I should have used the word WAS. My apologies.

Regarding the manufacture of oxandrolone, I’m rather tired of arguing with people with a sore lack of knowledge but an abundance of opinions because they get all their info from forums and articles, so I’m not going to go any further into this.


#20

[quote]Androgenoid wrote:
Given your IGF1 levels I’m guessing you may have been taking oral tren(methyltrienolone). Tren is the only AAS I know of that raises IGF1 levels significantly. It also raises prolactin. Oral Tren is probably the most hepatotoxic oral - it’s a toss up between cheque drops and oral Tren but I’d get a liver function blood test done if I were you. Although you’d probably be very sick if you’ve been taking oral Tren. I’d look into getting bloods to test for AAS to see what you’ve actually been taking because I assure you it’s not Anavar.[/quote]

pretty much all androgen raise IGF-1…