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Blood In Urine and Ketones?


#1

I'm starting a new job soon, but before I'm given an official offer I have to be tested for alcohol and drug abuse.
I had the test yesterday, which involved a urine test.
My urine was very yellow, and the doctor asked if I had been drinking enough water as it usually means a person is dehydrated.

Then the doctor put a strip in my sample.
She said the strip indicated that my urine seems to have blood in it and ketones (not sure of the correct spelling).
She said ketones are usually present in diabetics... but if I was diabetic then the strip would have shown glucose aswell as ketones, but as there was no glucose it's unlikely to be diabetes.

She also said ketones are common in people who are hungry for a long period of time.... my diet has been very poor lately due to work pressure and I'm only having 2 meals a day.

The thing that concerns me is the blood in the urine. The blood wasn't visible to the naked eye. She said sometimes it can be discolouration due to something you've eaten like beetroot, but I haven't eaten any beetroot lately, althought I did have tomatoe ketchup on my fries just before the test, could this be one of the causes? I forgot to mention it to her at the time as I wasn't thinking straight and was in a bit of a panic.

She said it could be a local infection, but I don't experience any discomfort or pain when urinating and everything seems to be ok.
Anyone else ever experienced something similar or know what the cause may be??


#2

First, and don't take this the wrong way, it kind of bothers me when people leave the doctor's office and still have huge questions. Is it that the doctor didn't seem approachable? Is it that you feel uncomfortable asking questions of the doc while at the office? Or is it that the questions didn't pop up until after you left? If the diagnosis of blood in the urine was based off of "it could be something you ate that discolored it", I wouldn't be worried about it, especially if you can't see blood in your urine. I am thinking the doctor was making side comments and you took it the wrong way. "sometimes it can be discolouration due to something you've eaten ", doesn't sound like a diagnosis. It sounds like your urine was dark brown to yellow indicating your fluid intake has been shitty lately. There would be ketones present if you had avoided carbohydrates in your diet for an extended period of time or had been fasting. Why did you leave the office with major questions still in your head?


#3

There might be doctors that surf this site that can help but in general I second Prof. X in that dude, you left the office knowing you've got BLOOD in your urine? Only thing I can think of a punch or kick (read: injury) to your kidneys...

IMO I would not have just left that office or at least gotten a second opinion stat as to why there is blood. Go see a doctor and get it checked out.


#4

Dude, prof x is a doctor.


#5

First of all, a strip detects the presence of either hemoglobin (hematuria), or myoglobin (myoglobinuria), in urine. It cannot detect the presence of pigments. So forget about finding something you ate that might be causing this. Common causes of hematuria is urinary infection, trauma, stones, neoplasms and tuberculosis. Also, it can happen following viral illnesses, minor trauma, exercise and allergies (so no need to panic). All of these can be asymptomatic. As for myoglobinuria, it is a sign of muscle death. It can happen after an intense exercise, or an ischemic event in your muscle, to name just two exemples. Maybe you just exercised too much before taking your urine sample. That would also account for the ketones in your urine. Also, it might just be a pseudo-hematuria, which is due to the fact that your urine was highly concentrated (the normal values are less than 2 red blood cells per microscopic field).

I would still ask a doctor to investigate further this problem, as it is frequently associated with neoplasms of the urinary tree, which have a very good prognostic if detected early. A microscopic evaluation (which takes 5 min to do), would help determine the origin of the bleeding.

I would also suggest changing doctor, since yours seems a bit incompetent. Nobody should leave a doctors office with blood in the urine and no further testings (which is what I understood from your post).


#6

Blood in Urine Overview

Blood in the urine is a common problem. The medical term for red blood cells in the urine is hematuria. Sometimes blood in the urine is a sign of a more serious problem in the urinary tract. Other times it is not serious and requires no treatment.

The urinary tract consists of the following structures:

Kidneys: You have 2 kidneys, located closer to your back than your front at about waist level. The kidneys filter water and waste out of blood to produce urine.

Ureters: These narrow, hollow tubes carry urine from the kidneys to the bladder.

Bladder: The bladder is a balloonlike organ that holds urine until it is convenient for you to empty your bladder (urinate).

Urethra: This narrow, hollow tube carries urine from the bladder to the outside of your body. The flow of urine is controlled by internal and external sphincter muscles, which tighten or relax around the urethra, holding or releasing urine.

In men, the genitals and prostate are considered part of the urinary system. The prostate surrounds the urethra in men. It is made up of glands that secrete a fluid that is part of semen. The prostate often becomes enlarged in older men.
Blood in urine is not always visible. If the amount of blood is small, the urine looks normal. This is called microscopic hematuria because the blood cells are visible only under a microscope. Typically, this is discovered when you have a urine test for some other reason.

When there is enough blood to be visible, the urine may look pinkish, red, or smoky brown (like tea or cola). This is called gross or frank hematuria. It takes very little blood in urine to be visible?about one fifth of a teaspoon in a half quart of urine.

A trace amount of blood in your urine is normal. The average person with a healthy urinary tract excretes about 1 million red blood cells (RBC) in the urine each day. This amount of blood is not visible. This is not considered hematuria.

An abnormal amount of blood in the urine can be acute (new, occurring suddenly) or chronic (ongoing, long term). Acute hematuria can occur just once, or it can occur many times.

Up to 10% of people have hematuria. About 3% of people develop gross hematuria.

Women develop hematuria more than men because women are more likely to have urinary tract infections.

Older adults, especially men, have hematuria more often than younger people because they are more likely to take medications that can irritate the urinary tract or to have enlargement of the prostate or cancer.

Causes of Blood in Urine

Hematuria has many different causes.

Blood in the urine can come from any condition that results in infection, inflammation, or injury to the urinary system.

Typically, microscopic hematuria indicates damage to the upper urinary tract (kidneys), while visible blood indicates damage to the lower tract (ureters, bladder, or urethra). But this is not always the case.

The most common causes in people younger than 40 years are "stones" in the kidneys or ureters and urinary tract infections.

These may cause hematuria in older people, but cancers of the kidney, bladder, and prostate become a more common concern with people older than 40 years.

Several conditions causing hematuria may exist at the same time.

Some causes of hematuria are serious, others are not. Your health care provider will do tests to help tell the difference.
The well-known causes of blood in the urine include the following:

Kidney stones

Infections - Of the urinary tract or genitals, especially in women

Blockage of the urinary tract, usually the urethra - By a stone, a tumor, a narrowing of the opening (stricture), or a compression from surrounding structures

Cancer of the kidney, bladder, or prostate

Kidney disease

Blood clotting disorders

Injury to the upper or lower urinary tract, as in a car wreck or a bad fall

Medications - Antibiotics (for example, rifampin), analgesics such as aspirin, anticoagulants (blood thinners such as warfarin), phenytoin, quinine

Benign (noncancerous) enlargement of the prostate - Known as benign prostatic hypertrophy (BPH), a common condition in older men

Chronic diseases such as diabetes, hypertension, and sickle cell anemia

Viral infections

Inflammation of the kidney - Usually of unknown cause

Strenuous exercise, especially running - Results from repeated jarring of the bladder
Sometimes no cause is found for blood in the urine.

If serious conditions such as cancer, kidney disease, and other chronic diseases that cause kidney damage or bleeding are ruled out, the cause is almost certainly not serious.

The hematuria will probably go away by itself or continue as a chronic condition without doing harm.
Urine can be colored pink, red, or brown for reasons that have nothing to do with bleeding in the urinary tract.

Foods - Beets, berries, rhubarb in large amounts

Food coloring

Medications - Certain laxatives and pain medications

Menstrual blood

Liver diseases - Also can be very serious

Blood in Urine Symptoms

Blood in the urine is itself a symptom rather than a disease. The appearance of the urine is usually not a clue as to the cause.

In gross hematuria, the urine appears pinkish, red, or smoky brown (like cola or tea). There may be small blood clots. The amount of blood in the urine does not indicate the seriousness of the condition.

In microscopic hematuria, the urine appears normal.
Many people with hematuria have no other symptoms. Other symptoms are related to the underlying cause of the bleeding.

Pain in the flank, back, or lower belly (abdomen) or groin

Burning sensation or pain when urinating (dysuria)

Fever

Nausea or vomiting

Weight loss

Decreased appetite
Kidney stones: Not all people with kidney stones have all of these symptoms.

Pain, often severe, in the flank, back, or lower abdominal pain that may radiate to the groin area

Nausea and vomiting

Normal temperature usually

Frequent urination

Burning sensation with urination

Restlessness - Constant moving around (writhing) to find relief from pain
Urinary tract infection: Symptoms may be similar to those or kidney stones.

Pain in lower back, flank, lower abdomen, or groin - May be severe but not enough to cause writhing

Fever with or without chills

More frequent urination

Sensation of having to urinate but little urine produced (urgency)

Burning sensation or pain with urination

Cloudy urine - Due to pus in the urine

When to Seek Medical Care

Any time you have blood in the urine or other symptoms of a urinary tract disease, call your health care provider. If you cannot get in touch with your provider or get an appointment that day, go to a hospital emergency department.

Any time you have the combination of blood in the urine, fever, and flank pain, you should seek emergency medical care, because this may represent a severe infection in your kidney.
Exams and Tests

Regardless of whether you have microscopic or gross hematuria, your health care provider will ask questions to try to discover the cause.

You will be asked about your medical condition and history, particularly whether you have ever had blood in the urine before.

You will be asked about what medications you take or have taken in the past, including over-the-counter drugs, illegal drugs or drugs of abuse, herbs, supplements, and other alternative products.

You will be asked whether you have had any recent illnesses, accidents, surgeries, or medical procedures or tests.

You may be asked whether you have traveled outside the United States, particularly to the Middle East or Africa.

You will be asked about your work history and about exposures to toxic chemicals.

You will be asked about your lifestyle and habits, including smoking, diet, and exercise.

You will be asked about your urinary habits.
Laboratory tests: After the initial examination, laboratory and imaging studies may be performed.

Urine "dipstick": This will probably be the first test performed in the emergency department or medical office. A strip of chemically treated paper is dipped into a cup containing a sample of your urine. The paper will show different colors to indicate the presence of blood, protein, sugar, or infection. The dipstick can give a false-positive result for blood.

Urinalysis: A formal urinalysis usually follows the dipstick test. Urinalysis is more accurate and gives a better idea of what is causing the bleeding. Protein in the urine, for example, signifies that a kidney problem is causing the hematuria. The urine is examined under a microscope to look for red blood cells and white blood cells, which signify infection.

Urine culture: A small amount of the urine is brushed on a special dish and placed in an incubator. Unusual bacterial growth indicates a urinary tract infection.
Imaging: There are several ways to visualize the urinary system, including ultrasound of the kidneys, intravenous pyelography, and CT scan.

Ultrasound, also known as sonography, uses high-frequency sound waves to "see" structures inside your body.

This likely will be one of the first imaging
studies performed because it is simple and widely available.

Ultrasound is used in pregnancy because the test has no radiation that can damage the developing fetus.

It is useful in screening for kidney enlargement from an obstruction such as a stone, cancer, prostate enlargement, or strictures.

The intravenous pyelogram, or IVP, is an x-ray of the urinary tract.

A harmless dye is first injected into your vein; the dye is filtered by your kidneys and provides contrast so the kidneys are easier to see.

A series of x-rays is taken over a 30-minute period, looking for blockages or problems.

This study is especially useful for evaluating the kidneys and ureter, but less effective for the bladder, prostate, or urethra.

It can localize obstruction, stones, or a tumor.

IVP should be performed with care in older people and people with diabetes or preexisting kidney disease, because the contrast dye may bring on kidney failure.

CT scan is like an x-ray but gives much better detail.

It is excellent for detecting stones in your urinary system.

The test can be performed without contrast dye and is especially useful in people with preexisting kidney disease.
If stones and infection are ruled out, other tests are needed to look for less common causes of hematuria. Older people are at especially increased risk for more serious causes of blood in the urine. Anyone aged 40 years or older should have a workup to determine if cancer is present in the urinary system. This workup usually can be done on an outpatient basis.

Cystoscopy: This test is most likely to be performed by a specialist dealing with the urinary system (urologist).

A thin tube with a tiny camera on the end is passed through the urethra to visualize the bladder, prostate (in men), and ureters. You are first given medication to relax you and relieve the discomfort of the procedure.

This procedure usually takes only 10 minutes.

Cystoscopy can identify most problems of the lower urinary system, especially cancers of the bladder and prostate.
Cytologic review: In this test, a pathologist examines a sample of urine for cells from the lower urinary tract.

If you have cancer, malignant cancer cells usually are present.

The pathologist examines these cells under a microscope and compares them with normal cells in the urinary system.
Blood in Urine Treatment

|Self-Care at Home|

If you have visible blood in your urine, do not attempt to treat yourself with home remedies. See a medical professional without delay.

If you have a urinary tract infection, you will take antibiotics for 3-14 days, depending on what part of the urinary tract is infected.

If you have kidney stones, be sure to drink plenty of liquids to help pass the stones and prevent other stones from forming. You may need to take pain relievers.

|Medical Treatment|

Many conditions can cause blood in the urine. Some of these have no medical significance and do not require treatment. They usually go away by themselves. Others can be serious and require immediate treatment. Treatment depends on the underlying cause of the bleeding.

Kidney stones: For most cases of kidney stones, you will be told to drink plenty of water and other fluids and to take pain relievers.

Most stones will pass through urinary system by themselves. In certain instances, more extensive measures may be required.

One form of therapy, called extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy, uses sound waves to crush the stones. The smaller pieces can then pass through more easily, though some pain will remain.

Another form of therapy uses cystoscopy to find the stone in the ureter and then to grab and remove it with a small scoop.
Urinary tract infection: Treatment seeks to get rid of the bacterium responsible for the infection, the second most common cause of hematuria. If you have no other significant illness, you will take a course of antibiotics for 3-14 days, depending on the source of the infection.

Benign prostate enlargement: Sometimes eliminating certain foods and medications that irritate the prostate can help shrink the prostate. Sometimes medication is necessary.

Medications: If a medication is causing hematuria, the medication should be stopped. Do not stop a medication without talking it over with your health care provider.

Urinary tract blockage: A blockage usually requires surgery or other procedure to correct or remove the block.

Injury: These may heal over time, or you may need surgery or another procedure to repair the injury or remove the damaged tissue.

Next Steps

|Follow-up|

Follow-up is very important if you have blood in your urine.

Typically, you will go back to your health care provider in 1-2 weeks for a repeat analysis of your urine to make sure the hematuria has cleared up.

If bloody urine continues, go immediately to a urologist.

You should drink plenty of water and take all medications as recommended if the hematuria is to go away.
Men older than 50 years for whom no definite cause is found should have yearly screening for prostate cancer.

|Outlook|

Prognosis depends on the cause of the bleeding. The prognosis for most people is good, because the most common causes of blood in the urine can be cured. People who are otherwise healthy can be treated on an outpatient basis.
For More Information

|Web Links|

National Kidney and Urologic Diseases Information Clearinghouse, National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases (NIDDK), National Institutes of Health, Hematuria (Blood in the Urine)

Hopefully that was useful,

Take care,

Ryan


#7

No one should leave the doctor's office with questions still in their head about what was done and why. If you are paying for treatment (hell, even if you aren't paying), ask until you run out of questions. I don't understand the relation to foods eaten unless no real blood was found.


#8

Dr. Ryan, great post.