Gentlemen, I have poured over hundreds of threads in various forums and have read hundreds of research articles/studies pertaining to exogenous testosterone supplementation. Obviously, for every study there is a counter study and for every opinion there is a counter opinion.
At the end of the day I realize we all learn what works for us as individuals based on our own trials and errors. Needless to say, feedback and input from others with experience in the task at hand is essential and thus why I have created this thread; to garner feedback, advice and constructive criticism from those who know what they are talking about because they have been there.
I am not interested in broscience or parroted information that just about every member on any given forum offers up; rather, I am seeking VERY sound advice from those who know what they are doing and know what they are talking about.
Age: 41
Ht: 6 2
Wt: 255
BF: 22%
My training background is pretty extensive; more of a powerbuilder than a bodybuilder. I have been pushing very heavy loads for many years and did this natty up until recently when I began TRT. That said, I have decades of training under my belt natty and have acquired a tremendous amount of muscle mass and strength from training hard and heavy alone without the assistance of ANY super supplements. I feel like I reached my genetic potential a while ago at the point when the strength on my lifts and gains in muscle mass subsided.
Back in May 2015, I decided to get bloodwork done to see where I was at (mind you, I had never done this before in my life). I met a TRT doc and went to LabCorp for my bloodwork and these were the results:
Total Testosterone: 201 ng/dl (LabCorp range is 348-1197)
Free Testosterone: 8.4 pg/ml (LabCorp range is 6.8-21.5)
Alas, I had LOW T as expected! Interestingly enough, the doc never included an estradiol check on this test so I had no idea what my estrogen levels were. Needless to say, the doc put me on 200mg testosterone cypionate per week dosed at 100mg twice per week and 25mg of DHEA-Sulfate per day. I began this protocol and began feeling pretty good by the fourth week; a noticeable increase in libido, but nothing else; no strength gains or changes in body composition despite eating much cleaner and sleeping more. I wanted to bang just about every woman in sight, so obviously the cypionate was doing something.
Fast forward to July 6, 2015, when I had follow-up bloodwork done at LabCorp. Here are the results:
Total Testosterone: 859 ng/dl (LabCorp range is 348-1197)
Free Testosterone: 33.5 pg/ml (LabCorp range is 6.8-21.5)
As you can see, my testosterone levels; both total and free had increased significantly, but I was not feeling much different than I had felt for years without being on anything at all. And, my libido had started to wear off by this point even though I was still horny, I just was not as raging horny as I had been on the 4th and 5th week of cypionate. Interestingly enough, my doc, again, failed to have my estradiol checked.
Fast forward to mid July 2015, my good friend referred me to his TRT doc for a second opinion. The first thing this new doc commented on was the other docs failure to check my estrogen levels before putting me on hormones.
That said, the new doc sent me to Quest on July 20, 2015, for a more comprehensive bloodwork panel to be done and here are the results:
Total Testosterone: 816 ng/dl (Quest range is 250-1100)
Free Testosterone: 264.8 pg/ml (Quest range is 35-155)
Estradiol: 53 (Quest range is < OR -29 pg/ml)
Alas, my estrogen was high and the new doc suspects it had always been high as my total testosterone was very low to begin with before I even put any exogenous hormones in my body. Moreover, the new doc criticized the other doc for putting me on DHEA as he stated this could also convert to estrogen and be an additional culprit.
Today, I am completely off all hormones until I figure out the BEST way to do this. Like I said, my T is low to begin with so I am not too concerned with this whole notion of prolonged use of testosterone may ruin my chances of ever recovering blah blah. My shit is LOW without anything so Iâ??m over that!
I am very attracted to a blast and cruise protocol where I basically stay on hormones for the remainder of my years. I want to continue going hard and heavy in the gym for years to come and I realize more volume at my age is probably a good idea. I want to continue playing football and doing the things I enjoy doing.
All said and based on what I have shared, I was considering the following:
Blast: 500mg to 600mg testosterone propionate per week (dosed M/W/F) for how many weeks??
Cruise: 200mg testosterone propionate per week (dosed M/W/F) for how many weeks?
Again, blast then cruise, the blast then cruise indefinitely.
What AI should I take? Dose? How to dose it?
Should I dose the AI the same way on the blast as the cruise or would this differ?
My diet will be VERY clean and I take all sorts of vitamins and high dose quality fish oil.
Goals: increase strength, muscle mass, lower bodyfat, feel better, fuck moreâ?¦.
I want to mitigate negative sides as best I can too of course.
Thank you very much in advance for your quality feedback.