[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
Sit down and use more weight. If you’re trying to work your shoulders, there’s no reason to do them standing.
And there’s no way you’re hitting a plateau after only 6 weeks. Stick with it and keep upping the weight. [/quote]
why wouldn’t one be working the shoulders while standing up?? i rarely see anyone doing a seated overhead press without leaning back and bringing the chest into the movement. standing forces you to stay upright and place most of the stress on the shoulders. There’s also the added advantage of working all the stabalizer muscles while standing.
I have nothing against seated over head pressing but i feel that standing is superior to seated for many reasons. [/quote]
You can’t go nearly as heavy standing up. As for the chest issue, you can say the exact same thing about standing; most heavy standing presses turn into a push press using the legs.
This is the bodybuilding forum and the goal is to put maximum stress on the shoulders, sitting will build better shoulders than standing 10 times out of 10.[/quote]
i’m fully aware that this is the bodybuilding forum. I still don’t get how you can go heavier seated. you are using the same muscles standing or seated. Most heavy standing presses do not turn into push presses. simply lock the knees and no push press. how does a push press activate the chest over a regular standing military press?
10 out of 10 huh… good to know.
also, is heaiver weights how you develop maximal size?
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I’m not sure how you got that out of what I wrote?
What I’m trying to say is that I agree with you that many guys arch their backs too much doing a seated press and it turns into a pseudo incline. My point was “cheating” is not exclusive to the seated press, you can “cheat” while standing by using your legs.
If both movements are done with proper form, you can use heavier weight sitting down. There’s no stabilization involved, no balance required, and most importantly your back is supported by the bench.
I could do military presses on a bosu ball and work on my shoulders, balance and core. That doesn’t make it the best exercise for building my shoulders.
Does this make sense?