Bill Makes It Illegal to Take Supps

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ll bet Fox News was all over that crap.
It’s just like them to spin something out of context, or just plain omit pertinent information to slant it in their favor.

Obama could find a cure for cancer tomorrow, but next day the haters would find some fault with it.[/quote]

LOL @ thinking fox is somehow unique in that regard.[/quote]

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…finally someone points this out[/quote]

Who gives a shit? This is a lie. I am more interested in why gullible fuckers are so ready to believe everything like this. The source of the news report is less important than the level of stupidity that would allow it to flourish so easily.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with what you’ve got here by any means. My comment wasn’t directed at the validity of the article/story, it was more of a side-note thanking someone for pointing out something incredibly obvious yet few people acknowledge.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Bigpull wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ll bet Fox News was all over that crap.
It’s just like them to spin something out of context, or just plain omit pertinent information to slant it in their favor.

Obama could find a cure for cancer tomorrow, but next day the haters would find some fault with it.[/quote]

yes they spin everything so far out of context that they have the highest ratings in cable news. I am way more informed now that I watch fox news.
Probably more suited for PWI.

If Obama did find a cure for cancer it would be one of the few positive things he has done cause his policies are shit. Liberal governemnt usually thinks that they know whats best for people and like to makes decisions for everybody. I do not need the govt telling me that I cant buy supplements, whether that law was almost passed or not.
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You’re from Washington. Everyone knows Washington is full of liberals… Don’t try to act like you didn’t vote for Obama :)[/quote]

Yes they are but mostly on the westside. Usually Western Wa is liberal and Eastern Wa is conservative. I live in SE Wa for what its worth :slight_smile:

[quote]Bigpull wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ll bet Fox News was all over that crap.
It’s just like them to spin something out of context, or just plain omit pertinent information to slant it in their favor.

Obama could find a cure for cancer tomorrow, but next day the haters would find some fault with it.[/quote]

yes they spin everything so far out of context that they have the highest ratings in cable news. I am way more informed now that I watch fox news.
Probably more suited for PWI.

If Obama did find a cure for cancer it would be one of the few positive things he has done cause his policies are shit. Liberal governemnt usually thinks that they know whats best for people and like to makes decisions for everybody. I do not need the govt telling me that I cant buy supplements, whether that law was almost passed or not.
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Yes because if we look at the track record of the last 12 years of republican presidents versus the last 12 years of liberal presidents, it is the liberals that have not done anything worthwile. How about the patriot act restricting our individual liberties? Who started that?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ll bet Fox News was all over that crap.
It’s just like them to spin something out of context, or just plain omit pertinent information to slant it in their favor.

Obama could find a cure for cancer tomorrow, but next day the haters would find some fault with it.[/quote]

LOL @ thinking fox is somehow unique in that regard.[/quote]

x1000

…finally someone points this out[/quote]

Who gives a shit? This is a lie. I am more interested in why gullible fuckers are so ready to believe everything like this. The source of the news report is less important than the level of stupidity that would allow it to flourish so easily.[/quote]

Well, part of why I was pointing this out is that all news outlets lie and mislead regularly. If you see something enough, it sinks in. “The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one”. In other words, I’m saying that The news and even TV in general are a huge part of the problem.

[quote]egnatiosj wrote:

[quote]Bigpull wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ll bet Fox News was all over that crap.
It’s just like them to spin something out of context, or just plain omit pertinent information to slant it in their favor.

Obama could find a cure for cancer tomorrow, but next day the haters would find some fault with it.[/quote]

yes they spin everything so far out of context that they have the highest ratings in cable news. I am way more informed now that I watch fox news.
Probably more suited for PWI.

If Obama did find a cure for cancer it would be one of the few positive things he has done cause his policies are shit. Liberal governemnt usually thinks that they know whats best for people and like to makes decisions for everybody. I do not need the govt telling me that I cant buy supplements, whether that law was almost passed or not.
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Yes because if we look at the track record of the last 12 years of republican presidents versus the last 12 years of liberal presidents, it is the liberals that have not done anything worthwile. How about the patriot act restricting our individual liberties? Who started that? [/quote]

You are speaking of republican and liberal as if they are mutually exclusive categories. Republicans started it and Dems continue it. Both believe in spending into large dept.

But anyways, I don’t mean to get sucked into a PWI debate here.

[quote]Bigpull wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Bigpull wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ll bet Fox News was all over that crap.
It’s just like them to spin something out of context, or just plain omit pertinent information to slant it in their favor.

Obama could find a cure for cancer tomorrow, but next day the haters would find some fault with it.[/quote]

yes they spin everything so far out of context that they have the highest ratings in cable news. I am way more informed now that I watch fox news.
Probably more suited for PWI.

If Obama did find a cure for cancer it would be one of the few positive things he has done cause his policies are shit. Liberal governemnt usually thinks that they know whats best for people and like to makes decisions for everybody. I do not need the govt telling me that I cant buy supplements, whether that law was almost passed or not.
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You’re from Washington. Everyone knows Washington is full of liberals… Don’t try to act like you didn’t vote for Obama :)[/quote]

Yes they are but mostly on the westside. Usually Western Wa is liberal and Eastern Wa is conservative. I live in SE Wa for what its worth :slight_smile:
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South Eastern Washington??? Well why didnt you say so in the first place! I take it back :slight_smile:

Obama is roid raging so hard at this thread.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ll bet Fox News was all over that crap.
It’s just like them to spin something out of context, or just plain omit pertinent information to slant it in their favor.

Obama could find a cure for cancer tomorrow, but next day the haters would find some fault with it.[/quote]

LOL @ thinking fox is somehow unique in that regard.[/quote]

x1000

…finally someone points this out[/quote]

Who gives a shit? This is a lie. I am more interested in why gullible fuckers are so ready to believe everything like this. The source of the news report is less important than the level of stupidity that would allow it to flourish so easily.[/quote]

Well, part of why I was pointing this out is that all news outlets lie and mislead regularly. If you see something enough, it sinks in. “The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one”. In other words, I’m saying that The news and even TV in general are a huge part of the problem.[/quote]

No, PEOPLE are a huge part of the problem. It takes a “special” kind of person to think that Obama was trying to kill all of the old people…yet I heard this very fear from many older conservatives when he first became president. The fear mongering is ridiculous and what is even more ridiculous is the claim that NONE of it resides in any racial disharmony.

The OP did NO research into this. He simply believed it. the truth is, you have to WANT to believe something like that to fall for it so easily…much like murdering all of the old people.

I swear, the older I get, the more I realize that the average person may be working on a 8th-10th grade level mentally for their entire lives. This irks the shit out of me because they ALL think they are geniuses.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ll bet Fox News was all over that crap.
It’s just like them to spin something out of context, or just plain omit pertinent information to slant it in their favor.

Obama could find a cure for cancer tomorrow, but next day the haters would find some fault with it.[/quote]

LOL @ thinking fox is somehow unique in that regard.[/quote]

x1000

…finally someone points this out[/quote]

Who gives a shit? This is a lie. I am more interested in why gullible fuckers are so ready to believe everything like this. The source of the news report is less important than the level of stupidity that would allow it to flourish so easily.[/quote]

Well, part of why I was pointing this out is that all news outlets lie and mislead regularly. If you see something enough, it sinks in. “The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one”. In other words, I’m saying that The news and even TV in general are a huge part of the problem.[/quote]

No, PEOPLE are a huge part of the problem. It takes a “special” kind of person to think that Obama was trying to kill all of the old people…yet I heard this very fear from many older conservatives when he first became president. The fear mongering is ridiculous and what is even more ridiculous is the claim that NONE of it resides in any racial disharmony.

The OP did NO research into this. He simply believed it. the truth is, you have to WANT to believe something like that to fall for it so easily…much like murdering all of the old people.

I swear, the older I get, the more I realize that the average person may be working on a 8th-10th grade level mentally for their entire lives. This irks the shit out of me because they ALL think they are geniuses.[/quote]

I myself am afraid of the possible ramifications on the elderly as a result of obamacare.

I’m afraid of the possible denial of care for them (a real possibility). I don’t think he’s trying to kill them, but the fact is, obamacare doesn’t provide any new medical services (no new doctors, no increased ability to perform operations est). So logically, if you are going to give some people increased access to medical treatment, some other group must necessarily receive less. Considering the elderly in the last years of their life receive the largest percentage of the current medical care, and it results is the least benefit, they are in position to be the group that receives the largest cuts in service.

If you look to medicare you can see where this is already an issue. Medicare as an insurer has by far the highest denial of claim rates when compared to private industry, and it isnâ??t even close. It would make sense that the more the government gets involved in the market, the more claims weâ??ll see denied.

Heck, Obamacare has already caused the end of child only policies (yeah, itâ??s hurting children) because of the way the bill is structured.

None of that is fear mongering. And it doesn’t even begin to touch on the horrible financial mess that the bill is.

I also find it hard to believe that you actually new people who thought and claimed to think Obama was willingly trying to kill old people. I guess it’s possible, but you’d have to know dumber people than I do.

I agree with your last paragraph at least.

But I don’t mind being the racist one in that case.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]duffyj2 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Did you even bother to research this before you posted this shit? In that link, is a link to that “article”: The US Is Adopting Codex Alimentarius

…with this response to it:

[quote]Dr. Rima Laibow, MD

Hi Jeff…

There is a good deal of internet chatter, including a piece on your site, which states that the June 10 Executive Order #13544 implements Codex and
S. 510.

It does not. What it does is position the government to strengthen the Uber Cartel’s assault on us with forced vaccines and drugs as attempts to PREVENT disease when, in fact, we realize well, it is actually CREATING disease and, of course, profit.

Here is our take on this bad idea: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=5604. We published this piece almost immediately after this EO was signed. There is, as far as a very careful analysis shows, no truth to either Peterson’s or Jordan’s interpretation of that E.O. [/quote][/quote]

Smackdown. This is what happens when you have strong opinions but a small brain.
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People are sheep.

Obama is going to kill all of the old people, enslave the human race, and take away our ability to use supplements.[/quote]

ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY X!!!

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ll bet Fox News was all over that crap.
It’s just like them to spin something out of context, or just plain omit pertinent information to slant it in their favor.

Obama could find a cure for cancer tomorrow, but next day the haters would find some fault with it.[/quote]

LOL @ thinking fox is somehow unique in that regard.[/quote]

x1000

…finally someone points this out[/quote]

Who gives a shit? This is a lie. I am more interested in why gullible fuckers are so ready to believe everything like this. The source of the news report is less important than the level of stupidity that would allow it to flourish so easily.[/quote]

Well, part of why I was pointing this out is that all news outlets lie and mislead regularly. If you see something enough, it sinks in. “The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one”. In other words, I’m saying that The news and even TV in general are a huge part of the problem.[/quote]

No, PEOPLE are a huge part of the problem. It takes a “special” kind of person to think that Obama was trying to kill all of the old people…yet I heard this very fear from many older conservatives when he first became president. The fear mongering is ridiculous and what is even more ridiculous is the claim that NONE of it resides in any racial disharmony.

The OP did NO research into this. He simply believed it. the truth is, you have to WANT to believe something like that to fall for it so easily…much like murdering all of the old people.

I swear, the older I get, the more I realize that the average person may be working on a 8th-10th grade level mentally for their entire lives. This irks the shit out of me because they ALL think they are geniuses.[/quote]

They’re all the ones who voted for Bush the previous 8 years and got us into this total mess were in. Yet they all want to blame Obama.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ll bet Fox News was all over that crap.
It’s just like them to spin something out of context, or just plain omit pertinent information to slant it in their favor.

Obama could find a cure for cancer tomorrow, but next day the haters would find some fault with it.[/quote]

LOL @ thinking fox is somehow unique in that regard.[/quote]

x1000

…finally someone points this out[/quote]

Who gives a shit? This is a lie. I am more interested in why gullible fuckers are so ready to believe everything like this. The source of the news report is less important than the level of stupidity that would allow it to flourish so easily.[/quote]

Well, part of why I was pointing this out is that all news outlets lie and mislead regularly. If you see something enough, it sinks in. “The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one”. In other words, I’m saying that The news and even TV in general are a huge part of the problem.[/quote]

No, PEOPLE are a huge part of the problem. It takes a “special” kind of person to think that Obama was trying to kill all of the old people…yet I heard this very fear from many older conservatives when he first became president. The fear mongering is ridiculous and what is even more ridiculous is the claim that NONE of it resides in any racial disharmony.

The OP did NO research into this. He simply believed it. the truth is, you have to WANT to believe something like that to fall for it so easily…much like murdering all of the old people.

I swear, the older I get, the more I realize that the average person may be working on a 8th-10th grade level mentally for their entire lives. This irks the shit out of me because they ALL think they are geniuses.[/quote]

They’re all the ones who voted for Bush the previous 8 years and got us into this total mess were in. Yet they all want to blame Obama.
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The funny part is that the only difference I see between the 2 is magnitude.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

I myself am afraid of the possible ramifications on the elderly as a result of obamacare.

I’m afraid of the possible denial of care for them (a real possibility). I don’t think he’s trying to kill them, but the fact is, obamacare doesn’t provide any new medical services (no new doctors, no increased ability to perform operations est). So logically, if you are going to give some people increased access to medical treatment, some other group must necessarily receive less. Considering the elderly in the last years of their life receive the largest percentage of the current medical care, and it results is the least benefit, they are in position to be the group that receives the largest cuts in service.

If you look to medicare you can see where this is already an issue. Medicare as an insurer has by far the highest denial of claim rates when compared to private industry, and it isnâ??t even close. It would make sense that the more the government gets involved in the market, the more claims weâ??ll see denied.
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You’re kidding! If the Cons had their way, they’d do away with such “socialist” (their word, not mine) programs like Medicare and expect CHURCHES to pay for the elderly and sick.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

I myself am afraid of the possible ramifications on the elderly as a result of obamacare.

I’m afraid of the possible denial of care for them (a real possibility). I don’t think he’s trying to kill them, but the fact is, obamacare doesn’t provide any new medical services (no new doctors, no increased ability to perform operations est). So logically, if you are going to give some people increased access to medical treatment, some other group must necessarily receive less. Considering the elderly in the last years of their life receive the largest percentage of the current medical care, and it results is the least benefit, they are in position to be the group that receives the largest cuts in service.

If you look to medicare you can see where this is already an issue. Medicare as an insurer has by far the highest denial of claim rates when compared to private industry, and it isn�¢??t even close. It would make sense that the more the government gets involved in the market, the more claims we�¢??ll see denied.
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You’re kidding! If the Cons had their way, they’d do away with such “socialist” (their word, not mine) programs like Medicare and expect CHURCHES to pay for the elderly and sick.
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I’ve got some news for you. The current system is little more than a pyramid scheme. It will be worse for the future elderly as a result of medicare than it would have been to have never had it. Oh, and we existed before medicare.

The current system is entirely unsustainable. It may be true that current and past old folks have gotten more treatment as a result of medicare, but that is not mathematically possible in the future. Once we are old, we will have payed for the insurance of those before us, and the system will be entirely bankrupt and unable to pay for us.

It isn’t rational to speak on the merits of medicare in its present state which is entirely unsustainable. You can make huge improvements in the present state by burdening future generations with trillions in dept. It doesn’t make it a good system just because there are improvements.

Look I do not believe everything I see or read, but this is how shit a starts out. I been in the game for over 15 years and Iâ??m just pointing this out, because you know we seen a lot of good supplements go out the door because of politician or a quack doctor thinks he right and band our supplements. I do not blame Obama for was put on his lap after Bush left, but donâ??t come and back door us with the same shit they always do, LOOK AT THIS HAND THAT WAY YOU DONâ??T SEE WHAT THE OTHER HAND IS DOING!!!.

[quote]joeljasonh wrote:
Look I do not believe everything I see or read, but this is how shit a starts out. I been in the game for over 15 years and Iâ??m just pointing this out, because you know we seen a lot of good supplements go out the door because of politician or a quack doctor thinks he right and band our supplements. I do not blame Obama for was put on his lap after Bush left, but donâ??t come and back door us with the same shit they always do, LOOK AT THIS HAND THAT WAY YOU DONâ??T SEE WHAT THE OTHER HAND IS DOING!!!. [/quote]

No, I do believe Bush was pretty straight forward in his war against steroids and even all minor related supplements. That is why all prohormones have been banned, why there is such an uproar in baseball and why several years later, every teenager thinks anyone with arms bigger than 14" is on drugs…like creatine. The Bush family fucked us sideways and back to front and I haven’t seen anything close to that from the Obama administration.

man this thread really turned serious… definitely took a trip to negative town.

[quote]gregron wrote:
man this thread really turned serious… definitely took a trip to negative town.[/quote]

Okay, did anyone actually read the EO? It doesn’t say anything about making vitamins or supps illegal. It doesn’t even mention the words “vitamin” or “supplement”. It does talk about federalizing some stuff and science based medicine or whatever, but supps and vitamins are based on science, it’s not like they’re put together in a backroom by 3 crones standing over a cauldron.