[quote]Brother Chris wrote:<<< Where is your proof that the body of Christ, the Church is only the largest charitable organization in the world. >>>[/quote]You are. Pat is and just about every other Catholic I’ve ever encountered who almost universally put forward as fruit a carnal life, a filthy mouth, ironically enough a satanic gospel of moralistic works and a bunch of worse than worthless self righteous “charity”.
You can’t help it. Your gospel has no power except to deceive. It leaves men just as they were, even while locked away in some idiotic monastery, friary or convent. It throws a very thin coat of transparent paint on their flesh and declares them Christians because they are in communion with a rank impostor calling himself the “vicar of Christ”.
That is the proof (one of em and one of the greatest) that that abomination in Rome is neither the body of Christ nor His church. A non stop historical parade of corruption, perversion and unchanged lives. The unholy tradition/theology goes hand in hand with them an unending self perpetuating machine of anti Christian evil. The gates of hell prevailed against that thing a long LONG time ago.
Come out of her Chris, forsake her whoredoms and taste the bread of life and living water for yourself and not through some pagan magisterium. My heart aches for you my friend. You and especially Pat, will likely look at this and have no idea what I’m talkin about. More proof, but not to you. There’s no such thing. Your heart and mind belong to Rome. Only the gospel I preach can resurrect you from that death.
Filthy mouth? Bullshit.
Well, I tried to be nice. I asked for proof. I have asked many things. But all you can do is name call. Do not ask BC to join the fallacious, anti biblical false doctrines of Calvinism. Let’s get into the nitty gritty. First, who was John Calvin? He was a man, with no divine inspiration nor any claim to be. Jesus, created the church which is now known as the Roman Catholic Church, there was no other in apostolic times. Mt 16:18 clearly spells this out unequivocally. You say the ‘gates of hell have prevailed against it’, completely contrary to what Jesus himself said. So, by what you said you have just called Jesus himself, God incarnate, a liar. There is no way around this one. It’s clear, it’s written in black and white. Do you really think Jesus was speaking about an undivinly inspired John Calvin 1500 years later when he was addressing St. Peter? Uh, no.
So now let us dismantle the tenets of Calvin.
Total depravity- “Because of the fall, man is unable of himself to savingly believe the gospel. The sinner is dead, blind, and deaf to the things of God; his heart is deceitful and desperately corrupt. His will is not free, it is in bondage to his evil nature, therefore, he will not - indeed he cannot - choose good over evil in the spiritual realm. Consequently, it takes much more than the Spirit’s assistance to bring a sinner to Christ - it takes regeneration by which the Spirit makes the sinner alive and gives him a new nature. Faith is not something man contributes to salvation but is itself a part of God’s gift of salvation - it is God’s gift to the sinner, not the sinner’s gift to God.”
First this is extra-biblical. It’s even difficult to make the inference of it’s truth through scripture. It also makes the claim that God makes man inherently evil, which would be contrary to God making man in ‘his image’. You have to claim that his image is inherently ‘dead, blind, and deaf to the things of God’ which would also debunk his inherent goodness. If we are inheriently evil, we are not stained by sin, we are sin incarnate. These are extra biblical tenet’s for they are clearly and unequivocally dispelled myths by the scriptures. Scriptural proof that this man made tenet is patently and unequivocally false is as follows:
- Romans 3:23
- Psalms 37:17
- John 1:9
- Romans 12:3
- Acts 10:1
- Acts 11:1
- Mark 16:16
- Isaiah 45:22
- Matthew 11:28
- John 7:37
Those are just to name a few.
I asked you to stop being a jerk. But you couldn’t help yourself. I asked you to prove your points, you cannot you can only scream insults. Well, now I must not only say your wrong, but prove it with the Bible only.
The difference between us, is that I don’t believe your willful ignorance will condemn you, because ultimately you love God. I just think your wrong and are full unfettered hate and anger directed at that which you do not know.
You’ll forgive me if I take the word of God over your’s or John Calvin’s?
Next up, dismantling the man made, extra-biblical, notion of ‘divine election’.