[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
as the years have gone by, I have witnessed firsthand, an astronomical increase in the amount of beta-male providers.
while this term carries with it a number of different definitions… id like to focus on the group of beta males who could quite possibly by THE MOST beta, of all betas.
now, I don’t want this to break down into a discussion of alpha vs beta etc… guys talking about how much they can bench, and what have you…
perhaps for the sake of discussion, I should describe my friends who have (for some reason) become beta-male providers…
And perhaps you can tell us how special you are and about how fitting you are to be father or stepfather.
28 years old, police officer, dating a single mother (who is quite large) while her baby-daddy resides in the corrections system.[/quote]
Oh, what a shame. I mean, perhaps this police officer is a stand-up man, a real man, who has taken the place of a low life sitting in prison and can fill the fatherless void in this girl’s life and instill in her sane values and love her, what a kid needs. A pity. And what a beta this man is, enforcing the law and protecting a community. I guess earning an honest living, excellent health benefits–which the daughter and mother can receive too perhaps–and a pension are possessions of the beta.
My cousin is a police officer as well as some acquaintances. Two innocent police officers were killed in my city yesterday and another was almost killed last night. A few months ago, a cop was struck in the back of the head with a hatchet while taking a photograph with civilians (a friendly deed) just blocks away from my job. You’ve got some balls to denigrate this man while including his profession, especially considering what is going in this world right now.
23 years old, no college education, works in retail at Best Buy, dating a single mother of 2 children from 2 different fathers (LOL). [/quote]
Something wrong with not going to college considering a significant percentage of those attending do not belong there anyway and that it’s an utter waste of time for many and that SOMEONE has to work at Best Buy. Maybe he should die dickless, loveless, and womanless, all because he works at Best Buy. Or maybe he should become “more alpha”, “up his skills set”, “take more courses and training”, and then WAIT til he gets a “better” job til he starts dating, finds a woman, and perhaps marries.
A permabulking fella who disappeared from this forum once advised aspiring alphas on this forum to avoid dating altogether til one turns 30, implying that a young man should wait til he “has his shit together” before he starts dating, bedding down, and marrying. I’ve sometimes wonders just how goddamn strange normal men would be if they followed this advice. I also wonder how it worked out for him.
If Mr. Best Buy does an honest job and can financially provide in full or partially (most lower to middle class families have dual incomes now) and provide the children with love, then good for him. He doesn’t need any damn advancement to follow his natural instincts to mate, raise kids, and have a woman. Perhaps according to you he deserves your scorn simply because he doesn’t earn a high income.
25 years old, college degree in bullshit, engaged to a single mother who he’s been dating for 6 months… looking to be married before they hit the 1 year mark of “togetherness” (they always talk about how much they love each other, on facebook). [/quote]
Oh my god, they fell in love before the one year mark. Horrible. Considering you are the expert and relationship judge here, deeming who is fit to mate and marry and raise kids, care to provide us with qualifying fall-in-love and financial-readiness time frames for the rest of us?
Should this guy change his career in order to have a family or should he look to you, Mr. Settled and Perfect for the right way?
im writing to see if any T-nationer has any insight as to why a male would do this to himself… spending his time, money, effort, etc, to raise another man’s child and care for his refuse? and accepting all the bullshit that comes with being a stepfather? [/quote]
As I said, you have a fresh set of balls on you. I was raised by a stepfather who loves my mom and he did an OK job with ME, the refuse (how kind of you). My mother left my dad because he was grossly negligent.
Why does one do it! Because he is a MAN and if he chooses to be involved with a woman who so happens to have a kid, he makes a decision, and if the decision is to continue, he steps up the fucking plate and takes on these NECESSARY BURDENS, the way ALL ADULTS take on necessary burdens.
Some people also adopt, making them surrogate parents. What a terrible thing, providing orphans , sometimes HUNGRY orphans, with a full life.
ive always read that being a stepfather is the MOST thankless job ever… so why do these “men” sacrifice their best years for this shit?[/quote]
And what special and higher authorities are writing and saying this?
My own brother was involved with a single mother. He makes an alright income, but he is NOT alpha. If you have to ask WHY such a man was involved then you are absolutely clueless about why men and women get together generally.
I hope you get enough love from the gym and supplements. Let me know how it works out.