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Best 'Prohormones'?

I know a lot of the most effective prohormones were banned, and the last ones I ever used were 4-AD-EC and MAG-10. My question is what are the best ones that are still available? Or are there any available that actually perform?

I have used Alpha Male, and would expect a lot of people around here will suggest that, but wanted to know if there’s anything else out there that’s actually of value.

Thanks for any input,
mrcold

Havoc/Epistane
11-oxo
3-AD

just a few

M-drol by CEL, was to me one of the best. 11-0x0 by ergopharm is a prohormone?

yuck, playing with fire mate

[quote]Game_over wrote:
yuck, playing with fire mate[/quote]

Any chance you’d elaborate? I had this posted on the supplements forum, but I guess it got moved here. Much as I’d love to venture into the real hormones, a border run from Nebraska is pretty extensive and I have no connections around here…so I’m kinda screwed in that regard.

Anyway, I was just kinda lookin’ for opinions here. I have quite a bit of “natural” work to do to get back into good shape prior to any of this stuff, prohormone or otherwise.

[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
Havoc/Epistane
11-oxo
3-AD

just a few[/quote]

How did your Epistane trial work out btw?

[quote]Game_over wrote:
yuck, playing with fire mate[/quote]

I realize a lot of the people here have the “real gear or nothing” mentality, but it is possible that getting proper gear may well be impossible for him.

Game was referring the alleged fame prohormones for having worse sides than gear with none of the gains.

[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
Game was referring the alleged fame prohormones for having worse sides than gear with none of the gains. [/quote]

I’m well aware of said side effects, but if he can’t get proper gear, then I’d say prohormones would be the next best thing. Are you sure about the whole no gains theory?

many of stories have been told and many have had rounds with pro-hormones that end up with results leaning toward harsh sides with a side effect of slight muscle growth. they are just too mysterious if thats the word. there is not enough experience and not enough research done about them. it sounds funny to say but in all regards actual AAS is in fact much safer.

and really to be honest if a pro-hormone is any good, it will get labeled schedule III just like MAG-10. you would be better off doing some digging and training straight until you found a reputable source for your candy.

i personally never dabbed into the realm of PH so i cant elaborate too much ill just say too treat it like a standard AAS cycle if you do decide to do it. anti-E’s and proper PCT in line.

[quote]Game_over wrote:
you would be better off doing some digging and training straight until you found a reputable source for your candy.[/quote]

I agree with this. Proper AAS is definitely the way to go. I’m just pointing out that for some people it’s not an option.

completely understand. its not easy trust me i know! and like i said as long as one is smart about dosing and has all ancillerary compounds in order it could be done safely

[quote]Game_over wrote:
its not easy trust me i know![/quote]

Poor yanks. My friend found a reliable source within two days. Our Police are too concerned with P to worry about AAS (and rightly so!)

whew must be nice!! luckily right now its the money crunch not the source that has me sweatin!

Thanks for the replies, guys. I guess I should’ve phrased the question a bit differently.

I used MAG-10 and other Biotest prohormones several years back, and did have some fairly substantial results. I just wondered if there’s anything out there that’s still legal that has anywhere near those types of effects.

That being said, I can’t claim I’ve put forth maximum effort at my new gym as far as locating the right people. I’ll wear my “ISO: Gear” T-shirt next time and see how it pans out.

Thanks again for the responses, guys.

thank goodness i didn’t start a thread. i get random emails from places i used to buy protein at, and every once in a while i’ll read their sales on REVOLUTIONARY N.O.!!!11 and the like.

everything i’ve heard on here seems like they are dangerous (and even more so without proper pct), however there were plenty of players on my baseball team last year in junior college who ran a couple “cycles” of them…methyl masterdrol, anabolic xtreme superdrol, and anabolic xtreme hyperdrol. they all made very good gains and got the proper PCT and liver support, so it makes me wonder sometimes.