i dont know, whatevers heavy for me. like 140-50ish for 8-12 on the pulldown.
deadlifts are the last of my problems lol. my back thickness isnt what im worried about its getting my width up.
Don’t take offense now, but you seem rather weak on pulldowns for your weight/height, just get stronger on those…
Rack chins should be better imo, easier to progress when also gaining bodyweight at the same time… If you don’t mind, add one of the DC Lat Extreme-stretches.
I’d do rack chins, BTN Pulldowns to ear level (making sure you get the stretch position on each of these while the contracted position really oesn’t matter…) and One-Arm Rows where the same rules apply and you can cheat quite a bit on the positive.
Why One-Arm Rows? For some odd reason, performing those Kroc style did really help my lats during my second year of training, even though they are more of a thickness exercise… Might just be my high lat attachments, though…
Hope that helps.
#edit: Of course you rotate them, rather than performing all in one workout… I’d be pulling the cable and not much else on btn pulldowns after doing rack chins the way I usually do them…
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Head over to IM and do a search there for a detailed explanation, that exercise is really worth it imo. (especially if you have trouble getting your back to work on regular pull-ups/chin-ups.
If however you belong to the “functional” crowd, it’ll give you cancer and aids at the same time, beware.