Ben White vs. Jonny Jackson Results

waylanderxx · September 30, 2009, 5:42pm

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Westclock wrote:
Agreed.

The local boys pull 600’s. Plenty of guys here pull 500 for reps…

For someone of his size that is unacceptable. Especially considering his bench, those lifts should not be close.

Hasn’t he always stated that he doesn’t pull in his regular training? Guess that came back to haunt him now.
The bench shirts didn’t seem to make a difference… Johnnie’s bench has been 515-520 or so for ages I think…

I was suprised that white didn’t bench more, actually… I totally expected him to do 600+ after all that bravado.

i haven’t seen a vid yet. the benches were done with a bench shirt?? those numbers seem really low for equipped lifts.

were the deads raw or equipped?

i thought this was supposed to be a comp. to see who the strongest bodybuilder was… besides Stan:), not to see who could get the most out of their bench shirt. i’m confused…

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It was all done raw.

waylanderxx · September 30, 2009, 5:44pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ben White has stated many times that he usually does not do deadlifts…which is more than likely the only reason he was much weaker…not because of overall weakness but the simple fact that he hasn’t spent years doing it like Jackson has.

I know if someone stuck me under a barbell right now my numbers might not be very impressive as opposed to something I actually do on a weekly basis.[/quote]

I mean I did 600x3 when I was like 15 pounds lighter, although I had trained it pretty consistently for a year or so. I guess my levers are better since I’m tall but 633 is pure shit, even if you don’t train it, when you are at bens size.

Cephalic_Carnage · September 30, 2009, 6:03pm

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Westclock wrote:
Agreed.

The local boys pull 600’s. Plenty of guys here pull 500 for reps…

For someone of his size that is unacceptable. Especially considering his bench, those lifts should not be close.

Hasn’t he always stated that he doesn’t pull in his regular training? Guess that came back to haunt him now.
The bench shirts didn’t seem to make a difference… Johnnie’s bench has been 515-520 or so for ages I think…

I was suprised that white didn’t bench more, actually… I totally expected him to do 600+ after all that bravado.

i haven’t seen a vid yet. the benches were done with a bench shirt?? those numbers seem really low for equipped lifts.

were the deads raw or equipped?

i thought this was supposed to be a comp. to see who the strongest bodybuilder was… besides Stan:), not to see who could get the most out of their bench shirt. i’m confused…

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Nah, they had to wear shirts because of Inzer sponsoring the event or something like that…

They didn’t add a pound to Johnnie’s bench, and you’d expect a bit more from a guy like Ben who raw-benched 505 for 9 reps or so. He did miss a much bigger attempt at the event, also missed a slightly higher deadlift due to balancing trouble…

Here’s a quote from pl watch on that:
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They were lifting in a classic standard blast shirt and champion suits

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Oh well.

Cephalic_Carnage · September 30, 2009, 6:04pm

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

It was all done raw.[/quote]

Not quite, but the gear didn’t seem to do shit.

Cephalic_Carnage · September 30, 2009, 6:07pm

Here’s Ben’s 505x9 (belt and wrist wraps) bench vid, btw.
Gotta wait a few sec, the first lift is not what the vid’s about.

Professor_X · September 30, 2009, 6:19pm

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Ben White has stated many times that he usually does not do deadlifts…which is more than likely the only reason he was much weaker…not because of overall weakness but the simple fact that he hasn’t spent years doing it like Jackson has.

I know if someone stuck me under a barbell right now my numbers might not be very impressive as opposed to something I actually do on a weekly basis.

I mean I did 600x3 when I was like 15 pounds lighter, although I had trained it pretty consistently for a year or so. I guess my levers are better since I’m tall but 633 is pure shit, even if you don’t train it, when you are at bens size.[/quote]

Dude, training it for A YEAR makes a huge difference. Like I said, I haven’t used a barbell bench in several years. I am sure my weight used would suck right now if I suddenly added it back in. It might just take me another year to get my weight used to an impressive level that actually shows my true strength level.

It just seems like some are taking that lightly. If you don’t train to do something, you won’t be good at it even if your true strength level is much higher.

I doubt Ben White gives a shit about the deadlift (from what he’s written before) until someone added it into this contest.

waylanderxx · September 30, 2009, 6:32pm

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:

It was all done raw.

Not quite, but the gear didn’t seem to do shit.
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Are you sure? I thought it was odd that they looked shirted, but the numbers weren’t impressive for an equipped lift so I assumed it wasn’t…I dunno what to think anymore!

waylanderxx · September 30, 2009, 6:38pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Ben White has stated many times that he usually does not do deadlifts…which is more than likely the only reason he was much weaker…not because of overall weakness but the simple fact that he hasn’t spent years doing it like Jackson has.

I know if someone stuck me under a barbell right now my numbers might not be very impressive as opposed to something I actually do on a weekly basis.

I mean I did 600x3 when I was like 15 pounds lighter, although I had trained it pretty consistently for a year or so. I guess my levers are better since I’m tall but 633 is pure shit, even if you don’t train it, when you are at bens size.

Dude, training it for A YEAR makes a huge difference. Like I said, I haven’t used a barbell bench in several years. I am sure my weight used would suck right now if I suddenly added it back in. It might just take me another year to get my weight used to an impressive level that actually shows my true strength level.

It just seems like some are taking that lightly. If you don’t train to do something, you won’t be good at it even if your true strength level is much higher.

I doubt Ben White gives a shit about the deadlift (from what he’s written before) until someone added it into this contest.[/quote]

Well I can still do 545x5 even though I don’t train it anymore, I might do the exercise once every few months or so. And for the record my form sucked balls, even when I did 600x3, and I got injured so I stopped.

Anyways, DL isn’t a hard lift to learn, I mean you just pic something up off the ground, even if your form blows you can still muscle it up. Plus he had a couple months to work on it, it’s not like the day of the comp he deadlifted for the first time.

I mean damn you give me a big crowd, some ammonia caps and that suit they were wearing and I could probably smoke a 633 right now.

taleb · September 30, 2009, 7:06pm

I was a bit sad that after that build-up neither of them did a 6 plate bench.

rasturai · September 30, 2009, 8:55pm

Gotta agree deadlift has always been my weakest…and well I never trained it when I first started and I’m paying for it lol.
But also sumo deadlift (modified, not that real wide stance that I don’t understand how people manage to do)
is a lot more comfortable and applicable to my bodytype.
I mean everytime I deadlift conv. I just feel like I’m going to injure myself lol. But the weird thing is I can do stiff leg deads off a plate much smoother. Fuck I don’t get it.

morepain · October 2, 2009, 8:07pm

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Professor X wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Ben White has stated many times that he usually does not do deadlifts…which is more than likely the only reason he was much weaker…not because of overall weakness but the simple fact that he hasn’t spent years doing it like Jackson has.