Beliefs to be a Republican Today

Just a few thoughts…
Ever consider that both parties are full of shit?

That those inside the beltway are infinitely more concerned with staying in power than with the good of the country?

That those in both parties make mistakes all the time, and then lie about it?

That the use of government power is increasingly about just a few things:
Staying in power, making money for your supporters, imposing the beliefs of your constituency on the rest of the populace.

That the extreme positions in almost every case are wrong. The classic example is abortion.
Right: Life begins at conception
Left: It’s about privacy and the women’s right to her own body.
Both positions are not just wrong, they don’t even address the issue at hand.
The real question: At what point in development does a fetus/baby aquire human rights? If it is at conception, much of fertility medicine is murder. Some on the left would argue that a baby on it’s way out of the womb is not yet human. Both positions are ridiculous.

That trying to force the entire country to conform to your OPINIONS is morally wrong. IE, medical marijuana, abortion, religion.

I only rarely hear any intelligent debate on any issue. Mostly people are just trying to score points for their side.

Was Clinton a jerk-off? You bet. any guy that shits where he eats is.

Did Bush make a mistake invading Iraq?
Fuck yes. WMD - not there. So now the rational is to bring freedom to the middle east. Right - I remember when I was on active duty, it was my dream to die so that people I didn’t know, would never meet, had nothing in common with and who wouldn’t give a squirt of piss if I did die could be free.

Again, they are all assholes, both sides of the aisle. If you think anyone in DC gives a flip about you - grow the fuck up.

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For those that need it…

[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Hmmm. Wasn’t as funny. Must be cause all the comedians are liberals. lol

It’s just your personal bias…[/quote]

I’m not a liberal. Don’t always vote Democrat either

[quote]Jersey5150 wrote:
Now I dont mean this as an attack of all republicans. I think its funny and for some of republicans dead on. So I have no intention of defending all these points because they dont apply to all Republicans.

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt

  • Being A Republican -
  • Make The Pie Higher -
  • The Quotable President -

Things you have to believe to be a Republican today:

Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime,
unless you’re a conservative radio host. Then it’s an
illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.[/quote]

“You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life,”… “I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication.”…
Limbaugh said that he is “not making any excuses” and that he is “no role model.”
-Rush Limbaugh

Yea this whole situation was a tough one on the Maha Rushi. He really got caught with his dick in the wind.

[quote]
The United States should get out of the United
Nations, and our highest national priority is
enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.[/quote]

It is our true policy to steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world.
-George Washington

I 100% agree that we should get the fuck out of the UN. A worthless, impotent, defunct orginazation. And war with Iraq was in the best interests of the US. Do I need to go find and repost all of the liberal demacrats who ALSO thought Saddam was a threat and might have had WMD?

I know this thread was supposed to be humorous, but but the last part of this statement is rediculous. President Bush went to the UN first and what did they do? Nothing. There’s too many US haters in the UN. They would love too see the US have a diminished role in the world. We need to get out.

It is far better to be alone, than to be in bad company.
-George Washington

[quote]
Government should relax regulation of Big Business
and Big Money but crack down on individuals who use
marijuana to relieve the pain of illness.[/quote]

I agree that businesses of all sizes should be less regulated. Let the free market work. I do disagree with alot of my conservative brothers though on drugs policy. Who gives a shit if someone wants too go home and smoke a bowl in the privacy of their OWN HOME. As long as your responsible about it, I believe that drug use is personnel business.

[quote]
“Standing Tall for America’” means firing your
workers and moving their jobs to India.[/quote]

If I owned a corporation and I had a union trying to tell me how to run the biz, hell yea I’d move too! Some unions have priced themselved out of a job.

[quote]
A woman can’t be trusted with decisions about her
own body, but, multi-national corporations can make
decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.[/quote]

Who’s entrusted with the decisions of the childs body? Doesn’t the child have any rights? I know, I know, someones gonna throw at me the question of incest and rape. And I don’t have any good answers. However, how many abortions are due to these circumstances. very few in comparison.

[quote]
Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of
homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.[/quote]

I’m a Republican and I have no problem with homosexuals(insert witty reference to screename here), this is another area where I part ways with many other conservatives. God has a plan for everybody and somehow homosexuals fit into that grand plan. Only he knows how.

[quote]
The best way to improve military morale is to praise
the troops in speeches while slashing veterans’
benefits and combat pay.[/quote]

Troop morale is higher now during a time of war than it was under Clinton.

[quote]
Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless
you someday run for governor of California as a
Republican.[/quote]

I’ll take an order of everything minus the drug use please! :slight_smile:

Once again, This is one Republican who believes that what you do on your own time is your business.

[quote]
If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents
won’t have sex.[/quote]

Nobody believes this, it doesn’t matter what party.

Except maybe Falwell or Robertson.:slight_smile:

[quote]
A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our
long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and
money.[/quote]

France, Germany, and Russia deserved to be bellitled, they got caught with thier hands in the cookie jar. What was it I was saying about the UN being full of US haters and that it’s a useless orginazation? Hmmmmmmmm.

[quote]
HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of
the public at heart.[/quote]

Again, nobody is dumb enough to believe this.

[quote]
Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy.
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.[/quote]

Everyone in America has a right to health care. Nobody in America has a right to health insurance. Yes, government provided health care is socialism.

[quote]
Global warming and tobacco’s link to cancer are junk
science, but creationism should be taught in schools.[/quote]

Can’t argue with tobacco’s link to cancer, however global warming theory has some holes in it.

Evolution is a theory that I believe should be taught in public schools, and creationism should be taught in sunday schools and perochial schools. But if the hometeam football stands want to be led in a christion prayer, one athiest in the crowd shouldn’t have the right to stop them. Some groups like the ACLU are actively attempting to drive any and all reference to christianity from schools and government.

[quote]
Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad
guy when Bush’s daddy made war on him, a good guy when
Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush
needed a “we can’t find Bin Laden” diversion.[/quote]

Saddam was usefull when we needed him, too bad things changed and we had too squash him. “Bush’s daddy” and “we can’t find Bin Laden” diversion? First one is a bit childish and the second one is just more liberal drivel.

[quote]
A president lying about an extramarital affair is an
impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist
support for a war in which thousands die is solid
defense policy.[/quote]

Leftists always try and water this one down to a president simply getting a blowjob from a fat intern. Not that simple.

If I was a fire chief and cheated on my wife with some girl at a hotel and got caught. That issue is between my wife, my mistress, and myself. If however, I was to cheat on my wife with a young girl from the fire academy in the chiefs office, I would be fired. And I would still have to deal with my wife and mistress. See the difference?

Again, EVERYBODY thought that he had WMD and alot of democrats agreed with the use of force if Saddam did not comply. This point is getting redundant.

[quote]
Government should limit itself to the powers named
in the Constitution, which include banning gay
marriages and censoring the Internet.[/quote]

I believe the government absolutely should limit itself to the powers contained in the constitution. I do not believe in banning gay marriages or censoring the internet however.

[quote]
The public has a right to know about Hillary’s
cattle trades, but George Bush’s driving record is
none of our business.[/quote]

Were either of them illegal? And if they were, did either of them atone for them? These are the important questions.

Like him or hate him, Bush did not lie about his DUI when it was conveniently thrown at him by the left. He didn’t make any excuses for it and has always been forthright about his history with drinking.

Yes I do support states rights. However federal elections require uniform federal regulations.

[quote]
What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital
national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is
irrelevant.[/quote]

I don’t believe that either are relevant IMO

I personally don’t see why we can’t be trading with Cuba right now.

Ahhhhhhhh fine Cuban cigars!

Good post Jersey, that was fun.

Never mind. Gotta get back to packing anyhow.

Bigflamer, you have reasonable, well-thought out beliefs. Some Republicans are closer to that list than you might like to think. And I’m sure some liberals are close to Reddog’s list. But I think both are fortunately a very small minority.

Ah yes, attempts at political humor. The big problem with such humor is sometimes it is not real humor, but rather a hidden attempt at an attack. (Oh no, I am being serious about humor.)

Yet all of these statements are actually the way liberals are seeing the conservative, or Republican (not always the same thing,) and not the true views of said politicants. (Wait, is that a real word?)

It would be the same to say:

Democrats want to allow illegal immigration because they will fill all of those jobs Americans want to do, but want to stop outsourcing to other countries because there are not enough jobs for Americans.

Funny? Ha Ha… uh, maybe not.

Now I am not a Republican, but I am a conservative.
An Atheist.
A capitalist pig.
I like long walks on the beach.
Bike riding.
And blowjobs.

You want funny. The statement about Veteran’s benefits and combat pay being cut, which is very funny because Bush has never cut anything from the budget. The term cut is absolutely hilarious because it actually means we didn’t increase as much as was asked for. Now that is the big joke. (Kind of like the Social Security fund.)

I have said it before and I will say it again.

Boobies.

(That has got to be my favorite word.)

Another big problem with comedy and politics is that in order to be funny, politics must be distorted. Facts must be twisted. Nipples must be pierced. (OK, maybe not that last one.)

What is funny?

I just flew into town…

and boy do my balls itch!

Now when it comes to people’s political knowledge, I am scared. Nobody knows anything nowadays. Kids used to run outside when the ice cream truck came by. Have you watched recently? Nowadays I actually see more adults running after the ding ding man then children. These are today’s voters. (Well actually most of them are too busy eating their bombpop to vote, which is why Kerry lost.)

Politics would be so funny if it wasn’t so scary. (I haven’t decided what to be for Halloween yet, but I am leaning toward washroom attendant.) Then again politics is a big joke.

How many politicians does it take to screw in a light bulb? (Obviously doesn’t take many to screw us.)

I am just waiting for the ACLU to push for the Ape’s right to vote. (Pass the Soylant Green.) Maybe damn dirty ape will be a derogatory term. (And in the defendants own word, “Oooh, oooh ahh ahh eeee eeee eeee.” I rest my case.)

Next time I vote it is going to be for Philip A Buster. (I have no reason for these parentheses.) Or maybe Micky Mouse. I have always wondered what would happen if he got a majority of the vote. (“Hi boys and girls. Today we are going to war, huhuh.”)

My favorite war was the war on poverty. (They never did bomb the slums.)

Anyway, what were we talking about? Oh yeah, don’t do drugs. (Listen to Foamy.)

[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Hmmm. Wasn’t as funny. Must be cause all the comedians are liberals. lol

It’s just your personal bias…[/quote]
No, just that the first list was much better.

I’m really not offended by the list, and a few of them are humorous, but a few things strike me:

  1. This is nothing more than one of those lame emails making its rounds with stale humor and overworked jokes. Which I am fine with, but how in the hell does something this bland get a bunch of ‘stars’ on its T-Nation rating? Seriously?

  2. The quote of Theodore Roosevelt’s has gotten a lot of play by left-of-center folks, and it is a good one. It’s just sad that they don’t like to quote TR so liberally from some of his other remarks, as some of quotes would require those left-of-center to retire to a fainting room with feverish hysteria.

BigFlamer

Did you know the ACLU argued a case on behalf of a teenage girl who was sent home for school for wearing a “Cool girls love Jesus.” shirt? The school sent her home to change her shirt. The ACLU argued that this violated the girls right to free speech and one.

They also argued on behalf of Rush, in the case involving his medical records.

Oh and for the record I trust neither side, both have to much to gain an lose to really completely do for the people. I try to vote for the people that are going to let science advance and dont care what you do in your personal life, and dont think its good to pollute. I am no greenie I just get nervous about shit like lead in the fish and estrogen in our meat.

[quote]Jersey5150 wrote:
BigFlamer

Did you know the ACLU argued a case on behalf of a teenage girl who was sent home for school for wearing a “Cool girls love Jesus.” shirt? The school sent her home to change her shirt. The ACLU argued that this violated the girls right to free speech and one.

They also argued on behalf of Rush, in the case involving his medical records.
[/quote]

Did you know that they also defended these pieces of shit?
And that their founder Roger Baldwin was an avowed America hater and communist?

Anyone who would willingly defend these sick fucks deserve to have the shit kicked out of them for an hour.
A handfull of reasonable actions don’t warrant the shit theyve also stood for and defended.

Sorry Jersey, I gotta throw the bullshit flag here. The ACLU sucks.

ACLU defends child-molester group
Asks judge to throw out lawsuit against NAMBLA for 10-year-old’s murder


By Julie Foster
? 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

The American Civil Liberties Union has asked a judge to dismiss what it calls an “unconstitutional” lawsuit against a national pedophile organization being sued in a wrongful death case after two of the group’s members brutally raped and murdered a 10-year-old boy.

The $200 million civil lawsuit, which charges the North American Man-Boy Love Association with wrongful death, was originally filed in Massachusetts Federal District Court on May 16.

As reported in WorldNetDaily, Salvatore Sicari and Charles Jaynes picked up fifth-grader Jeffrey Curley and took the boy to the Boston Public Library where Jaynes accessed NAMBLA’s website. Later, the men attempted to sexually assault Curley, but the boy fought back. Attempting to restrain him, Jaynes gagged the 10-year-old with a gasoline-soaked rag, eventually killing him. The men put Jeffrey’s body in a tub with concrete and threw it in a river.

According to Curley family attorney Larry Frisoli, Jaynes kept a diary in which he wrote that he turned to NAMBLA’s website in order to gain psychological comfort for what he was about to do. The killer had been stalking Curley prior to the boy’s murder and possessed various materials from the clandestine group.

The ACLU argues that the newsletters and other NAMBLA materials in Jaynes’ possession, which contain ‘‘photographs of boys of various ages and nude drawings of boys,’’ are protected speech under the Constitution. The material does not ‘‘urge, promote, advocate or even condone torture, mutilation or murder,’’ ACLU attorneys wrote.

‘‘Examination of the materials that have been identified by the plaintiffs will show that they simply do not advocate violation of the law,’’ the dismissal motion states. ''But even if that were the case, speech is not deprived of the protection of the First Amendment simply because it advocates an unlawful act."

Both killers are now serving life sentences. The family filed the lawsuit against NAMBLA and the Internet service provider that hosted its site, arguing their son might still be alive were it not for the group and its website.

But the ACLU believes NAMBLA is being unconstitutionally ‘‘sued for their ideas.’’ According to court documents from the ACLU, the case raises ‘‘profoundly important questions under the First Amendment,’’ because NAMBLA is not being sued for making any particular statements, but simply for creating an ‘‘environment’’ that encourages sexual abuse.

‘‘What they don’t like is what NAMBLA stands for,’’ said John Reinstein, legal director of the Massachusetts chapter of the ACLU. ‘‘They don’t like their ideas or the notion that someone else would have accepted them,’’ he told the Boston Globe.

The Curleys won a $328 million wrongful death case against their son’s killers earlier this year, but since both men are penniless, Frisoli called it largely a moral victory. WND reported in July that Frisoli was preparing a class-action lawsuit against NAMBLA. If NAMBLA loses the class-action suit, individuals and parents of children who were involved in sexual relationships with members will be able to collect damages.

According to Frisoli, NAMBLA has anywhere from 300 to 1,300 members, depending on which time period is selected for the lawsuit, translating to thousands of children that would constitute the class in the suit.

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Bigflamer, you have reasonable, well-thought out beliefs. Some Republicans are closer to that list than you might like to think. And I’m sure some liberals are close to Reddog’s list. But I think both are fortunately a very small minority. [/quote]

Thanks jsbrook. And I agree that there are repubs out there that I wish would go away (Pat Robertson), the extreme religious right is one of them. On the whole though I agree with more Republican stances than I do with the Dems. I often catch shit from some republicans because of the stances I’ve taken, But disagreement within a party can be good too right?