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Before Anastrozole, Trying Other Techniques

My estradiol level was 63 . Before starting Anastrozole ( btw I would have to source it from an underground chemical supplier - which is another reason I want to delay using ) I am going to try splitting my 100mg Test C dose from once a week to twice 50mg . I am going to add some DIM , grape seed extract , resvertol , vit D , zinc , selenium , omega 3 - I will let you know how it goes .

I heard optizinc taken 100 mg to 150 mg a day was a powerful aromataze inhibitor, keep us updated on how it goes.

5th day into new techniques - positive results all around ! Harder muscles , fat loss , good pumps at gym , nocturnal wood , no ED ! . Hope the plan works long term , but it feels like a great start

Going to add red clover and bladderwrack seaweed to the mix .

About 2 weeks into supps - Skipped the bladder wrack for now ( not to keen on going to high on iodine ) - added a small bit of androgel on alternet injection days . The supps feel like they are working , maybe too good ( lol ) . But it is hard to tell from extra low estrodiol to extra high - except for the ED . But since my ED went away a few weeks now and my pumps at gym are hard I can speculate my estrodiol is lower but not too low - the reason I say it may be too low is my mood is low and I have been more down lately ( but I have a long history of periodic depression and it usually flares up in fall ) . All in all I feel my estrodiol feels lower and I feel better then before supps .

Zinc cannot do much and taking large amounts can make one unable to properly absorb other minerals such as copper.

Many articles on zinc as AI out there . Correct about high levels of zinc depleting other minerals and vitamins . Alot of the articles on supplements are non conclusive and theory based . I choose these specific supps after researching which ones were MOST LIKELY to be an AI .

Still feeling great . Btw I added androgel twice a week on off injection days. My thoughts were to boost my DHT a bit and raise my libido . Also it will add a bit of T on the off injection days . Since my T level is 560 while on 100mg week - I have a lot of room to go up and not go out of range .

Feeling good , more muscular , BUT getting some ED - so I decided to add a bit of liquid anastrozole - about .5 mg per week to start along with supps .

Please post labs when you feel better.

Probably will not get labs done for month or so but for the record I fell pretty good except for the ED

Btw in June my DHEA s was 68 - ( range is 55-700 ) I am going to add 50mg micronized DHEA daily - I had my DHEA level in the 800s doing 100mg oral supps a few years ago so I know I can absorb it .

Nevermind on DHEA - It converts to estrogen and can’t be controlled with an AI . More trouble than it is worth for me so I will avoid DHEA.

I researched the Testosterone conversion chart and it looks like DHEA actually does have to convert to E via aromatase enzyme . I have been using the DHEA cream along with a tube of androgel 2x week along with 60mg Test C injections 2x week . Over all I have felt pretty good energy levels and my fat loss is great .

Muscle gains are good . libido is good . Morning and nocturnal wood . ED is hit or miss but mostly improving - some sex days I am like a porn star , some times failure to fully get hard . I ADDED ANASTROZOLE liquid from a research chemical site - 1mg per week for last 2 weeks . My nipples are no longer sensitive .

I upped dose of Anastrozole to 1.5mg per week - getting labs done in 4 days . Overall I speculate the natural supplements I take for AI helped a bit but not enough , but this is just a guess .

I do not see any direct DHEA–>E2 pathway. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Steroidogenesis.svg

Most do not have any DHEA–E2 issues. Not known if that happens in the adrenals or peripheral tissue. There really are many situations where one can be different from the “norm”.

The path is indirect - first goes to andro then either T or E via aromatase