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BCAAs And Aminos

Hello … quick question, hope someone here knows

would like to know if I should add the protein value of:
bcaas
taurine
qlutamine
to my daily macro totals

thanks for any info

Absolutely not! If you add them in you’ll put yourself at risk to Transliptoadrenalitis and your gains will be 23.9452% less than if you didn’t add them.

For the love of god, do not include those values.

I’m kidding. Add, subtract, multiply, whatever. It won’t make a difference.

I wouldn’t. You should be getting as much protein from solid food as you can. All the rest is just a bonus.

Yeah, that is a little to anal for me. You shouldn’t need to to get to your requirements.

-chris

[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Absolutely not! If you add them in you’ll put yourself at risk to Transliptoadrenalitis and your gains will be 23.9452% less than if you didn’t add them.

For the love of god, do not include those values.

I’m kidding. Add, subtract, multiply, whatever. It won’t make a difference.[/quote]

??

maybe i should add that I’m currently on a fat loss plan …

10-11X BW … taking about 30g BCAAs, and 30gGlutamine

daily totals are around
170g protein, 130g fat, carbs from vege and trace amounts (on my heavy days I have 15g of a carb mix post workout)

protein value includes bcaas but not glutamine

1900 calories? And you weight what, 190 (using your formula and known values)?

Who cares what supplements you’re taking, what’s your daily meal plan?

[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
1900 calories? And you weight what, 190 (using your formula and known values)?

Who cares what supplements you’re taking, what’s your daily meal plan?[/quote]

my meals are solid (people call me a food nazis)

10-15 servings of vege (including fresh greens juice every other day, spinach & green leaf lettuce are the bulk of this) … vege: cabage, broc, peppers, spincah, asparagus (yada, yada, yada)

currently following the AD method (though because i get sick and sleepy from carbs i carb-cycle for sat and sun … on diet down phase I have about 200g from solid sources, including one meal out)

daily: 3tbsp whole flax (then ground), 1.5tbsp carlson fish oil, chlorella, greens+ (or similar), liver tabs, cla

weekly: tin sardines, tin herring, can oysters (zinc), salmon

breakfast is almost always steak (150g) and 2-3 eggs

last meal before bed: micellar protein (currenlty Metabolic Drive) with cream and walnut oil

note: i keep a food journal

yesterday (day off):
(30g BCAA, 8 creatine, 30 glutamine mixed with greens) x spread over 4times
+daily
1/ steak, eggs, spinach, onions, fresh parsley
2/ chicken breast, red peppers, lettuce, olive oil
3/ salmond, riccota, spinach, chard, onions, spices
4/ metaoblic drive and cream

i normally have 5 or 6 meals (if workout)
but snoozed a little longer then normal


i really wanted to know about the aminos because i want to make sure I’m not getting too much or too little protein on a daily basis (30g is a big swing daily on a diet, IMO)

currently 10-14% body fat … would like to get around 10 on the high end before adding more body mass

[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
1900 calories? And you weight what, 190 (using your formula and known values)?

Who cares what supplements you’re taking, what’s your daily meal plan?[/quote]

my meals are solid (people call me a food nazis)

10-15 servings of vege (including fresh greens juice every other day, spinach & green leaf lettuce are the bulk of this) … vege: cabage, broc, peppers, spincah, asparagus (yada, yada, yada)

currently following the AD method (though because i get sick and sleepy from carbs i carb-cycle for sat and sun … on diet down phase I have about 200g from solid sources, including one meal out)

daily: 3tbsp whole flax (then ground), 1.5tbsp carlson fish oil, chlorella, greens+ (or similar), liver tabs, cla

weekly: tin sardines, tin herring, can oysters (zinc), salmon

breakfast is almost always steak (150g) and 2-3 eggs

last meal before bed: micellar protein (currenlty Metabolic Drive) with cream and walnut oil

note: i keep a food journal

yesterday (day off):
(30g BCAA, 8 creatine, 30 glutamine mixed with greens) x spread over 4times
+daily
1/ steak, eggs, spinach, onions, fresh parsley
2/ chicken breast, red peppers, lettuce, olive oil
3/ salmond, riccota, spinach, chard, onions, spices
4/ metaoblic drive and cream

i normally have 5 or 6 meals (if workout)
but snoozed a little longer then normal


i really wanted to know about the aminos because i want to make sure I’m not getting too much or too little protein on a daily basis (30g is a big swing daily on a diet, IMO)

currently 10-14% body fat … would like to get around 10 on the high end before adding more body mass

You are definitely a food nazi.

Don’t count them.

There is no need to count them. BTW, I would watch the amount of carbs if you’re following the AD. Cruciferous veggies do contain non-fibrous carbs. 10-15 servings a day can add up quickly to more than 30g.

8 grams of creatine? Is that really necessary?

[quote]Schmazz wrote:
8 grams of creatine? Is that really necessary? [/quote]

using JB’s plan of (5g bcaa + 2.5g creatine)*4-5 … i changed it a little to have more bcaa and less creatine