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BATFE Raids Cav Arms

No one has been arrested and no formal charges have been filed. Instead, their entire inventory has been taken and they’ve been given the usual guilty even after proven innocent tact our favorite JBT’s are known for. They did the same thing to KT Ordnance not very long ago.

If you are even considering purchasing an AR-15 anytime in the near future, now is the time. Cav Arms needs help. Don’t let The Gang drive another honest gun dealer out of business.

http://www.agparms.com/product.php?productid=16148&cat=0&page=1&featured

mike

Interview with JBT. Not so much information about alleged wrongdoing other than “federal firearms violations”. I read on another site that the warrant alleged “money laundering”.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/video/?bcpid=1155316042&bclid=1155075693&bctid=1435496304

Do you need a FFL license to order?

Edit: Nevermind, yes you do.

[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Interview with JBT. Not so much information about alleged wrongdoing other than “federal firearms violations”. I read on another site that the warrant alleged “money laundering”.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/video/?bcpid=1155316042&bclid=1155075693&bctid=1435496304

[/quote]

Why did they lay all the guns on tables? To show the media how an evil gun manufacturer has guns?

It is past time for the BATF to go away.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Do you need a FFL license to order?

Edit: Nevermind, yes you do.[/quote]

Not if you buy only a lower receiver. There is an “aid” program to raise money.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=680406

[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Do you need a FFL license to order?

Edit: Nevermind, yes you do.

Not if you buy only a lower receiver. There is an “aid” program to raise money.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=680406

[/quote]

From the link:

AGP will need a copy of an FFL willing to transfer your lower .
A copy of the FFL you want to use MUST be sent before the lower can be shipped to you

How much more would one need to spend to put together a decent rifle?

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Loose Tool wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Do you need a FFL license to order?

Edit: Nevermind, yes you do.

Not if you buy only a lower receiver. There is an “aid” program to raise money.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=680406

From the link:

AGP will need a copy of an FFL willing to transfer your lower .
A copy of the FFL you want to use MUST be sent before the lower can be shipped to you

How much more would one need to spend to put together a decent rifle?[/quote]

Zap, as far as an FFL goes, the lower receiver is the “evil” part so you would need to find someone with one. All you have to do is talk to either your local gun shop or the occasional pawn shop. When you buy the part it’ll be shipped to them and the FFL will likely charge you about $20 for a transfer fee. That’s where he makes his money.

The Cav arms lowers are really cool because the pistol grip and buttstock are molded into one piece. Basically, for an Ar-15 if you got this, your expenses would be:

Lower Receiver: $125
Parts Kit: $65 (Make sure it’s one specifically for this receiver, other parts kits won’t work with it.)
Upper Receiver: Varies, but a quality pre-built upper half from somewhere like Rock River Arms runs between $480 and $600. I recommend the 16" mid-length A4. You can get uppers on the cheap, but you’ll regret it if you buy from one of the dozens of cheapo companies. I’d stick to RRA, Bushmaster, Stag, DPMS, LMT and other reputable companies.

The .223/5.56 is something of a girlie round I confess, but it is always a good idea to have a military-pattern rifle in the common caliber of our military and law enforcement. Besides, even your wife/gf/10 year old could shoot it all day without hurting his/her shoulder. My wife loves our ARs.

mike

Thanks Mike. I have been on again off again considering an AR for quite some time.

Building it myself this way would certainly help me to learn it.

Unfortunately for the JBT, desktop CNC machining becomes cheaper all the time…

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Loose Tool wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Do you need a FFL license to order?

Edit: Nevermind, yes you do.

Not if you buy only a lower receiver. There is an “aid” program to raise money.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=680406

From the link:

AGP will need a copy of an FFL willing to transfer your lower .
A copy of the FFL you want to use MUST be sent before the lower can be shipped to you

How much more would one need to spend to put together a decent rifle?[/quote]

OOPs. Sorry 'bout that. I guess where I get my guns, the issue of FFL doesn’t exactly come up… Carry on.