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Baseball Strength Regimen

Hello all, would just like some feedback or comments on my new routine for baseball.

Monday-Chest/Triceps

Flatbench- 135lbsx20, 150lbsx12, 160lbsx10, 185lbsx3, 205lbsx2, 225lbsx1.

Incline- Same pyramid but lighter weight.

Decline- Pyramid too, More weight.

Dips- Bodyweight 20x5

Closegrip Bench- 95lbsx20 3 Sets

Skull Crushers- 50lbsx10 3 Sets

Triceps Pushdown 100lbsx20 5 sets.

Tuesday-Back/Biceps

Wide Grip Chins
Lat Pulldowns
Rows
Hyperextensions
Straightbar Curl
Hammer Curl(Very Heavy)
Preacher Curl
Cable Curl
(Superset Arms)

Wednesday (Rest)

Thursday- Legs
Squats(Heavy, (Balls to the Walls)
Calf Raises

Friday-Shoulders/Traps,Delts

DB Millitary Press
Smith Shoulder Press Front/Back
Straight Bar Shrugs
Lateral Flys-Side,Front, Reverse Front.

I try to stick to free weights for I heard they help the stabalizer muscles.

Thanks. T

I’d cut the number of exercises for chest and bi in about 1/2.

Overall, it looks like too much volume and too many reps.

Do you pitch? If so don’t do so many bench and incline presses.

Gotta watch out for your shoulder.

So youre doing 3 different presses (not counting NGP’s), only one vertical pull and only one horizontal pull, and FOUR curl variations?

You do realize how large of a muscle group your back is, especially compared to your biceps. Stop ignoring it. A couple of sets of curls isnt going to hurt you, and in fact, I think you should do some curls, but when youre ignoring the the largest muscles in your body (back and legs) and doing 4 different exercises for one of the smallest, it doesnt make sense.

Pick up New Rules of Lifting by Lou Sculer and Alwyn Cosgrove. Youll be glad you did.

I think you have to decide on whether you want to be a bodybuilder or a baseball player. In my opinion as a former professional baseball strength coach and current college strength coach, training the way you described is more suited for bodybuilding purposes than baseball. I would never prescribe your type of split for anyone.

Why do baseball players need to be strong? Oh nevermind I can answer that. They don’t unless they’re a pitcher.

Sure the stronger you are the faster you can swing a bat but at the same time the bigger your muscles are the less agility you have unless you train out your ass to stay as fast. If anything do leg work so you can steal bases in less time and in general get from A to B quicker.

Ha true, but na, I couldn’t picth if my life depended on it, (but I do have a nasty knuckle ball haha) Im a second baseman and left fielder, I want to bat clean up and I got a good eye but I need to get my strength up too. Thanks

Well can you help me out with a routine, our coach and batting coaches are ignorant as a sack of potatoes.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Do you pitch? If so don’t do so many bench and incline presses.

Gotta watch out for your shoulder.[/quote]

I am going to second that. I would not use a barbell to press either. If you are serious about baseball you cannot afford to get injured in the weight room.

[quote]Magnar wrote:
I think you have to decide on whether you want to be a bodybuilder or a baseball player. In my opinion as a former professional baseball strength coach and current college strength coach, training the way you described is more suited for bodybuilding purposes than baseball. I would never prescribe your type of split for anyone.[/quote]

I completely agree with this. Your split wouldn’t be the most effective for someone training to be a better athlete.

[quote]Irish_Iron wrote:
Well can you help me out with a routine, our coach and batting coaches are ignorant as a sack of potatoes.[/quote]

Check this out…It’s something i found on another thread written by Jay Ferruggia:

Baseball is, first and foremost, a game of skill and hand/ eye coordination. There is nothing that a strength and conditioning program can do to improve that. You can be weak and slow and still be a good hitter. This is obviously something that you are born with. This is why the sport itself, ie. practice will always be more important than speed and strength work; although this is the case for all sports anyway. I just always like to point that out because sometimes people are deluded into thinking that getting stronger will make them a better hitter. Becoming a better hitter will make you a better hitter. That’s years of practice with good hitting coaches. Drills to improve hand eye coordination are something that should be a part of every baseball players repertoire.

Now we have to look at what a s&c program can help baseball players with. Injury prevention is always first on the list. So we have to look at the high frequency of Tommy John surgeries and rotator injuries as our main concern. The rotator cuff must be strengthened through various external rotation exercises. I have noticed that many baseball teams also do loaded internal rotation exercises but I don’t see the logic in this. Everything you do in baseball is in internal rotation so what you want to do is work the opposing muscles of the external rotators. This will help to offset imbalances and keep the shoulder healthy. The muscles of the rear delts, rhomboids and entire upper back must also be strengthened as much as possible. The biceps are the muscles that decelerate the arm when throwing. As such they must be strengthened optimally as well. By doing a lot of chin up and row variations this is pretty much taken care of but I always like to throw in some direct arm work as well. With all of the lat/upper back and direct bicep work I usually like to emphasize the eccentric portion of the lift as that is how the biceps contract when throwing.

The aforementioned injuries can also help to be prevented by maximizing the strength of the lower body and the core. This is where all the power is generated. Some pitchers have incredibly strong arms and can throw the ball unbelievably fast. The problem is that over time this will lead to problems if their lower bodies are not up to par and they end up being “all arm.” I have all of my pitchers push their squats and deads through the roof. I have several pitchers who can all squat in the mid 400’s and pull over 500. So far they are all injury free. I believe this is one of the reasons.

With the main injury prone areas addressed lets next look at what we can do to improve a baseball players game. Getting stronger will obviously help hit the ball further. Again, all of the power is generated in the lower body and core. The lats are also of critical importance and would best serve as the upper body max effort lifts. Finally, forearm strength can not be overlooked and should be included in every baseball training program.

Getting stronger will also improve linear speed (home to first) and lateral speed (jump on a steal attempt). It is often suggested to split these two speed sessions into separate workouts on different days but I think that is overkill for kids at the high school level. Besides the last time I checked every sport included both types of speed in the same game. Again, we need to focus on exercises such as squats, dead lifts and a wide variety of single leg movements such as split squats and step ups. Baseball is all about transferring power from one leg to the other so we need to address unilateral work in our training.

To improve speed, baseball players should be trained like sprinters. There is no endurance component to the game of baseball so any kind of endurance training is counter productive. You may sprint to first to beat out an infield single, then five minutes later sprint to second to break up a double play. Ten minutes later you may sprint ten feet to field a fly ball and then have another thirty minute break before you run again. This is not a grueling sport! Do not ever train baseball players for endurance. Work on starting speed and the first step out of the batters box and the first step on a steal. Teach them proper technique for both. Do all of your sprints with adequate rest periods as well. Most work should be no more than the distance from home to first. Secondary concern would be running home to second or home to third. But the frequency of that happening in games makes it a lower conern on the totem pole. As a side note, to avoid imbalances, I am a fan of having players swing the bat in the opposite direction and run the bases in the opposite direction. Doing the same repetitive motion over and over can lead to pattern overload, imbalances, and injuries.

I notice that you are doing plyos, mobility, agilities, hurdles, med balls, etc. My take on that is this: Most high school baseball players are weak. If you get them stronger while they are simultaneously improving their on the field skills, they will get better. Doing too much will take away from their ability to get stronger. You said yourself that your players are traditionally weaker than you want them to be. Spend most of the time that you have with the kids making them better baseball players, ie. skill work. Running mechanics should be your second priority and injury prevention and improving basic strength should be next. I don’t think there is a need for a ton of other stuff at this level. Also, do not ever try to mimic the throwing motion a player will use on the field with heavier implements. This will screw up their mechanics and could lead to injury.

If I had to train a high school baseball team three days a week here is a general idea of how I would set up the program.

  1. Dynamic warm up (outside) (10-15 min)- jumping jacks, mnt climbers, squats, shuffle jacks, etc., movement prep- high knees, butt kicks, side shuffle, etc., dynamic stretches, PNF stretching for tight areas
  2. Starting speed/ short sprints with adequate rest periods of 60-180 seconds (10 min)
  3. Strength and power development (inside) (40-50 min)- I prefer to use whole body workouts in most cases like this. Some of my athletes use upper/lower splits but most start on a full body workout. You can set these workouts up in one of two ways. One is to include speed work (DE), heavy or max effort (ME) work, and repetition work on the same day every day of the week. This is similar to Joe Kenns tier system and works great. Another way is to split the different methods up into different training days. The reasoning behind this is that supposedly combining too many types of training on the same day will “confuse” the nervous system and lead to less than optimal results. I have used both methods with much success and can honestly say that one system does not necessarily produce better results than the other.

After the sprint work we would come inside and do something like this:
*Note- Some people argue that you can’t run and lift in the same session but that is something that has been done for years by teams with no other options quite successfully. It is also the preferred method of arguably the worlds greatest speed coach, Charlie Francis.

  1. DE lift- this would either be a clean, some type of med bal throw, box jumps, depth jumps, jump squats, box squats, etc.
  2. ME lift- These would be split into a different lift on each day. One day would be a squat/ dead variation, another day would be a row/ chin up variation and the third day might be a strongman or full body lift either for low or high reps.
  3. Assistance work for the upper back, chest, shoulders, lower back, biceps, triceps, etc.
  4. Prehab work for external rotators- I also include this before lifting but very light and only as a warm up. Many people believe in doing the loaded prehab work first but over time I have found that people do better on these exercises after a workout when they are full warmed up. They are usually a bit more stresfufl when done first. This is something I have learned through experience and have changed on my own over the years.
  5. Ab circuit- Focus on rotation ab work such as russian twists, woodchoppers and med ball side throws.
  6. Cool down- static stretch, foam roller, post workout shake.

Here is an example of a specific workout:
Monday

  1. Hang clean- 5x3
  2. Squat- 4x5 or 5x3 or 5RM or 3RM, etc. (Whatever option you choose, this is intended to be your heavy exercise of the day)
    3A) Chin Up- 4xas many as possible
    3B) 1 Arm Flat DB Press- 3x8-10
  3. 1 ARm External Rotation- 3x10-15
  4. Ab circuit- Side raise on ghr, inc reverse crunch, swiss ball crunch- 2-3x10-20
  5. Wrist Roller- 3x1

Wednesday

  1. Box Jumps- 5x6
  2. Pullup- same as squats on monday
  3. Chain suspended pushup- 3x amap
  4. Kneeling Scarecrow-3x10-12
  5. External Rotations- 2x20
  6. Ab Circuit- Med ball russian twist, lying leg raise, janda sit up
  7. Farmers walk- 1x100 yards or 1x around the bases or 3x90 feet, etc

Friday

  1. Med ball overhead scoop throw- 6x1
    2A) DB Split Squat- 3x6-10
    2B) 1 Arm DB Row- 3x6-10
    3A) 1 Leg Back Extension- 3x8-12
    3B) Offset Med Ball pushup- 3x6-10
  2. External Rotations- 2-3x15
  3. Ab Circuit- barbell russian twist, hanging knee raise
  4. Towel Hang- 1 x 30 sec

That is just one of many ways I would set up the training programs. That is not taking into account many factors that I would usually need to know of before writing a program. I could go on listing different options for program set up and also discussing specific thoughts on training for baseball all night. I would also include other strongman lifts if I had the ability to do so, such as rope rows, tug of war, tire flips, sled dragging, etc. Explaining every aspect of training would take quite a while. Unfotunately I have to go to bed now. Hopefully I have given some useful insight and was at least of some assistance.

Good luck and, most importantly, have fun. Let me know if I can ever be of assistance.

Jason Ferruggia

also check out “The ‘G’ Spot”

Tony Gentilecore’s locker room. I’m going to be training a pitcher this summer and asked him a couple of questions that he answered really well. It’s on the last page or two around posts 215-225

Wow thanks man good post.