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Barbell Rows for 531 Main Lift


#1

Jim,
I recall a while back you used barbel rows for 531 instead of pressing because of your shoulder. I have a pretty messed up shoulder right now and heavy pressing is not gonna happen for a while.

I was wondering if the regular approach to 531 worked with the barbell rows or if you found you needed to change anything up.
Thanks for all you do man,
Dave


#2

It was ok - bent rows end up being Hump the Bar Rows when used as a "main movement". Best to use a low TM and use 8's or 10's PRO. And then do Power Cleans as a main movement.

In other words, you can't progress too slow because your form on the BO Row becomes an issue. I'm sure others believe that the BO Row is a main movement but to me, it's a main exercise. if it were so great, they'd use it in the Olympics or PL meets.

But they don't. And there is a reason why.

If your shoulder is messed up, get it fixed. As said many, many times before, living with a 100% fixable injury is a way to fuck up your life.


#3

Jim (or anyone else),
I keep seeing you mention the 3s, 8s, and 10s progression. I have all 4 5/3/1 books but can't figure out where you discuss these progressions? I see the 5s prog in the new book. Where can I find info on the others? Thanks.


#4

They are the same idea as the 5's PRO - just change the numbers.


#5

Each up or down 5% respectively?


#6

Nope - you fuck with the TM to get the numbers you need. I'm not sure I understand your question - just do 8's or 10's instead of 5's. Nothing changes except the TM.